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When I say “alphabetical order”, I mean “alphabetical order”

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Re: When I say “alphabetical order”, I mean “alphabetical order”

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> with auto save systems, you flag/name a version as your canonical save point. You mean each saved version is stored separately, like a version control system? A system like that would be fine (in fact I use version control all the time for this kind of thing). But that's often not how auto save is implemented; the auto save just clobbers the last version you saved. That's the kind I don't use.

I’ve never used an autosave system for general software like that, overwriting the file but keeping no history, before. Which one behaves like that?

How long have you been using computers? Once upon a time, all autosave systems worked like that. That's why they were rarely used.

Re: When I say “alphabetical order”, I mean “alphabetical order”

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post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve never used an autosave system for general software like that, overwriting the file but keeping no history, before. Which one behaves like that?

How long have you been using computers? Once upon a time, all autosave systems worked like that. That's why they were rarely used.

> How long have you been using computers?

Since the 1990s, and I've never used an autosave system that worked that way.

Re: When I say “alphabetical order”, I mean “alphabetical order”

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> export LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 Why would you do this to yourself?

Why? For example to not have diacritics in month names? Take them as examples as you can easily add them to a shell script to make in work the way you want.

But you get

* 12h time

* Sunday start of week

* Silly pyramid mm/dd/yyyy

Re: When I say “alphabetical order”, I mean “alphabetical order”

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This got me riled up to the point where I blew a gasket and just can't.. I agree with the article. I liked computers better when everyone hated them, and for the reasons they hated them..

I agree that the base functionality of just sorting character by character can be occasionally useful. However I would really be interested in seeing why you believe this to be the correct choice for user-facing graphical file managers, as its evident problems with typical usage seem more salient compared to the edge cases as illustrated in the article.

Because I value predictability more than convenience, I'm too stupid to figure out the set of rules deemed "the right way of sorting", I can't even.. the possible ways it can be implemented is nearly infinite, it makes me anxious just to think about it. Sorting by numerical value is simple, I can understand that, I know the ascii table, I can predict what happens, I know where to look for stuff, meaning I can quickly find out where stuff is, because I don't have to look a bit here, then there, and then think "oh, maybe if it starts with a letter, then has a space and then a number they will order them by word - number" but if they start with a word but has no number they won't be sorted along with those, but if they st... nope.
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