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Sanctions diminish a counties capacity to wage war.

Cite? Russia and Iran seem to not be giving too much of a shit. NK became a nuclear power under sanctions.

Russia have gas shortages right now because their plants keep getting blown up and the needed spare parts are often western.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

> in federal pounding-in-the-ass prison Ha ha ha, it's so funny and harmless to make fun of people in prison, because they all deserve it, right? And the US is a free country? Sorry but this just makes me incredibly angry.

I read it rather as a description of how very serious the threat of prison is, and why the risk is not worth it. Didn't seem funny to me at all, though I may well be reading it wrong.

It certainly didn't seem like the commenter was agreeing with the way the government runs prisons or what happens in them. Again, maybe they do, and I just failed to see it.

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Iranian regime sucks, American regime sucks. Both can be true at the same time. I'm not a fan of either, although I think Trump's government does enjoy higher level of support in America than Iranian government does in Iran. Trump hasn't (so far) seen a need to shoot unarmed protesters to stay in power, like the Iranians have done.

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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Who is "you"? The US government doesn't reflect the majority of Americans, at all. It reflects capital interests - which the majority of Americans are not. Majority of Americans are laborers.

it was voted in by majority, no matter what mental gymnastics you do. People either voted, or decided that their vote was worthless enough.

Out of available US presidential, House, and Senate candidates, there is essentially no realistic electoral outcome where the people put into power will lift Iranian sanctions.

Representative democracy doesn't mean that every possible policy could be enacted by some realistic configuration of elected representatives, even if any particular policy is supported by a majority of the electorate.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

> Nobody should be expected to take that risk I've seen this sentiment so many times from westerners. You all say this, and yet at the same time you levy economic sanctions on countries like Iran, Cuba, and North Korea, with the justification that by making their citizens lives horrific, you encourage them to rise against their government. Their authoritarian militaristic government that doesn't care for human rights…

you can't just use harsh language to remove dictators or fascist leaders.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

#386

This works as designed. Sanctions like these are meant to piss off the people living in terrorist states so that you either rise up and rid yourself of all terrorist roots or you accept that the rest of the world doesn’t want to play ball with terrorists or terrorist enablers.

I don't know. If I would run "docker run hello-world" and got and error "403" because I'm from Iran, I would be more pissed at US for making my life harder. --- unrelated but jesus christ I'm so pissed at west as a russian. For years London was welcoming russian oligarhs with their stolen money. Putin was invited to Finland even after 2014 invasion of Crimea. But you fuckers decided to ipmlement sanctions only after…

> unrelated but jesus christ I'm so pissed at west as a russian > So if I sell my appartment in Russia and want to transfer money to Europe now I would need to prove this is not money I pillaged from Ukraine.

Just stay at home then, whats the problem? If you are so pissed with the West then why is it a problem that you cannot come here? Just stay in Russia then.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

#387

This works as designed. Sanctions like these are meant to piss off the people living in terrorist states so that you either rise up and rid yourself of all terrorist roots or you accept that the rest of the world doesn’t want to play ball with terrorists or terrorist enablers.

I don't know. If I would run "docker run hello-world" and got and error "403" because I'm from Iran, I would be more pissed at US for making my life harder. --- unrelated but jesus christ I'm so pissed at west as a russian. For years London was welcoming russian oligarhs with their stolen money. Putin was invited to Finland even after 2014 invasion of Crimea. But you fuckers decided to ipmlement sanctions only after…

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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

#388
A friend of mine, originally from Iran but now a Canadian citizen, was stopped at the border during a recent visit by CBP. They interrogated him, scanned his phone, found some EE paper, insinuated that he makes bombs and is a terrorist, and sent him back to Canada. The US' treatment of Iranians is quite appalling.

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>The sanctions on the Mullah regime have prevented financing of more proxies. Less funding of proxies just means Israel gets away with killing more civilians without consequence.

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Israel is occupying a piece of land it violently seized by force and ethnic cleansing: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba . The people of Palestine have a right to self defense just like anyone else; exercising that right doesn't make them terrorists.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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it was voted in by majority, no matter what mental gymnastics you do. People either voted, or decided that their vote was worthless enough.

Out of available US presidential, House, and Senate candidates, there is essentially no realistic electoral outcome where the people put into power will lift Iranian sanctions. Representative democracy doesn't mean that every possible policy could be enacted by some realistic configuration of elected representatives, even if any particular policy is supported by a majority of the electorate.

>Representative democracy doesn't mean that every possible policy could be enacted by some realistic configuration of elected representatives, even if any particular policy is supported by a majority of the electorate.

that is only true if you flatten your system to two parties.

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