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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Israel seems like a very ineffective bully considering that the UN consistently condemns them the most vs. any other country in the world. https://unwatch.org/un-condemns-israel-17-times-6-on-rest-of... But for me, this says more about the nature of the UN than that of Israel.

Students in the USA had their images posted on the sides of vans / trucks for protesting genocide. That may not be directly funded by the state of Israel, but it's difficult to squint and not see that this is a direct result of their lobbying and / or the lobbying of groups they support or who act on their behalf.

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Antisemitism is back, with its nasty conspiracy theories, jews as baby killers, controlling the world, involved in any news item. Good thing Zionism was invented exactly to counter that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations

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Ok, lets imagine a scenario where there are 2 developed countries right next to each other that hate each other. One raids the other and kills some people. Generally you might sanction a raid against the military targets that supported the raid, or perhaps targeted removal of the head of state or something.

But thats not the case here. Israel herded these people into this open air prison, removing them from and then settling their land. And kept them bottled up next to their settlements.

The only moral way to approach this situation would be for it to have never developed in the first place. Failing that, you would work to undo it. Heck, as you return every single refugee to their land, you can process them to see if they are a hamas fighter and jail them.

This is the truth of the matter. As Israel uses force to contain Gazans, they are effectively their government. They cant have Electricity, or Internet without Israeli approval. They cant pass border checkpoints without Israeli approval. The Israeli military frequently raids them. They do get black vanned and sent to Israeli prisons all the time. They are defacto Israeli subjects.

Therefore, this isnt a matter of warfare, this is a matter of policing. A civilian response would be best. There is no second country, and the people who benefit most from pretending there is a pseudo state in Gaza, are the Israelis, who use it to justify asymmetric warfare.

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No, the rules haven't changed—they've been the same for many years. Let me try to dig up some past explanations. Edit: here's one from a few months ago, which covers the principles: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 . Re how we approach political topics (or political overlap) on HN in general: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... Re how we deal with Major Ongoing Topics, i.e. to…

Looking at the official HN guidelines, it states that "Most stories about politics" is off-topic , and "If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic ". Is the Isreal/Gaza debate not political, and not mainstream news? How does a story like this not directly violate those guidelines? Furthermore, the guidelines state that stories should be what "good hackers" find "intellectually satisfying". A political deb…

Because it's BS. The rules are secondary to someone's political agenda.

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If only the blue representatives would resolve this tension by pulling support for a now internationally-recognised genocide! :( I suppose that option is just too radical to put on the table.

The Biden administration brokered and pressured Israel into a ceasefire that asymmetrically disfavored them. Israel exchanged 30 Hamas militants per Israeli hostage. The ceasefire outlined a permanent resolution to the conflict, including Israel's full withdrawal from Gaza. They also pressured Israel to keep aid channels open during the war, which is exceptionally obvious now given significantly longer blockades and…

Like this whole thing has gone for 70 years in Israel. We already know what comes of the same strategy that was followed for all that time. Doubling down on it now isn’t going to change anything.

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Isn't that an Israeli "hasbara" site? The Israelis have admitted that they use the false cry of "antisemitism" to attack. "Calling it antisemitism - it’s a trick we always use." Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli Minister https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1896748975207952758

You are aware that Shulamit Alloni was on the extreme left and was criticizing this supposed misuse of Antisemitism, this is not some playbook The american equivalent would be to quote Bernie Sanders saying "America is fascist" and then saying, see? therefore the USA system of government is fascism, even Congress agrees!

Not sure how that's the equivalent.

Lets see if there is a pattern.

Roger Waters criticizes Israel, Roger Waters is an antisemite.

Tucker Carlson criticizes Israel, Tucker Carlson is an antisemite.

Edward Said criticizes Israel, Edward Said is an antisemite.

Even "legends" get called antisemites! [1]

Hannah Einbinder criticizes Israel, Hannah Einbinder is an antisemite? Hmmm.

According to Jerry Seinfeld, anyone who says "free palestine" is antisemitic.

Any website, or any person, that claims "antisemitism" has lost all credibility for me.

[1] https://moguldom.com/454177/silicon-valley-legend-paul-graha...

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