I'm more of an 8-3-5 kind of guy
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Re: 996
#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as the companies in question aren't monopolies on violence, it's a complete non-issue. So with that in mind, why would any sane person want to impose such an inefficient mechanism to allocate resources and make decisions within a company or corporation? The only good thing about democracy in the context of a state, after all, is that every other alternative is worse. But that is strictly because of the fundam…
Violence is not always physical. The likes of Meta have subjected the world to unfathomable violence, but we give them a pass because we can't see the scars with our eyes.
Huh? Violence is defined as the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy. If you mean "harm", please use that word instead of wrongly using another.
Re: 996
#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
> When founders put 996 in their job descriptions or Tweet about their 996 culture it’s a helpful signal to avoid that company. Or a helpful signal to join that company if it’s something you’re excited about. It’s crazy to me that people are so arrogant to say that somebody else is “wrong” for being excited about something.
performative hours ≠ excitement if folks were actually excited and motivated, you wouldn't need forced hours, you'd just trust people to work in the best way for them
Do you think there are 0 people in the world who are excited about long hours at work?
Re: 996
#384996 is just theater for investors. Saw this happening even at YC companies. There was always that stupid expectation of overworking, staying until 9. The reality is that people twiddle thumbs. And the disorganization and micromanagement power plays are enough to negate any additional worked hour. This ranges from pure disorganization in terms of what to build to having 3 hour meetings with the whole fucking company w…
> 996 is just theater for investors. Investors who have not heard of the research into productivity that says long hours have no significant benefit for skilled work? Who have not heard of diminishing returns? Who have no experience of the reality of working long hours themselves?
That these people have all the money is the surest evidence that we do not live in a meritocracy.
Re: 996
#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
> When founders put 996 in their job descriptions or Tweet about their 996 culture it’s a helpful signal to avoid that company. Or a helpful signal to join that company if it’s something you’re excited about. It’s crazy to me that people are so arrogant to say that somebody else is “wrong” for being excited about something.
996 done on your own time without expectations of it being done can be understood if you're excited about it. It's dumb, it ruins your health and your social experiences, but whatever, you're usually young and dumb. A good employer would actively tell you to slow down and manage your energy if it goes on for too long.. 996 mandated by the company is 1/ illegal 2/ straight up illegal 3/ a clear signal that they do not…
> 996 mandated by the company is 1/ illegal 2/ straight up illegal 3/ a clear signal that they do not see you as a human being.
1 & 2. I don't believe this to be true in the United States.
3. If a company mandated 9 to 5 for 5 days a week isn't that equally distasteful for someone who is excited to work 996?
Re: 996
#386I worked for a 996 founder in a faced paced startup recently - after busting my ass for 5 months he fired me for not delivering fast enough despite creating an entire platform from scratch
Now I’m was old enough to realize the risk- but given this job market which absolutely sucks for developers but I see young twenty something’s getting influenced by stupid catchphrases like 996
Re: 996
#387Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as the companies in question aren't monopolies on violence, it's a complete non-issue. So with that in mind, why would any sane person want to impose such an inefficient mechanism to allocate resources and make decisions within a company or corporation? The only good thing about democracy in the context of a state, after all, is that every other alternative is worse. But that is strictly because of the fundam…
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violence is defined specifically as the use of physical force, and I expect the other commentator you're replying to specifically chose that word for a reason.
Re: 996
#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're smart enough to get hired for one of these roles, and you're willing to work 996, be just a little bit smarter and found your own startup and take all the upside.
Or nobody could take the upside. Imagine if ownership of a company was divided according to the amount and skill level of work.
A co-op or a partnership? But how will the non-productive class make money from it?
Re: 996
#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have absolutely zero faith that the current political ruling class will “come to their senses”. All you have to do is observe their current behavior and you will come to the same conclusion. When billionaires show you who they are, believe them the first time. They have not lived through a depression and neither have they lived through any major world wars. They will be curious to see how bad it can get and they be…
The current billionaires seem yo know they're headed to apocalypse since theyre building evil lairs. They know history. The problem is: power is an addiction and like all addictions, some can manage to cope without and others will a absolutely follow a destructive pattern of behavior
I think people read too much into this sort of thing. When you have so much money, spending some preparing for a 1/1000000 chance of doom makes total sense, even if you believe we're actually heading for utopia.
Re: 996
#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some people tried to evade the system - that’s why we have helicopters. We can just grab them and bring them to court, no problem. I don’t think “some people didn’t abide the rules” is reason not to make sensible laws.
Yeah, sure, helicopters is all you need to catch millions of sophisticated tax evaders using semi-legal loopholes developed and implemented by professional accountants and lawyers. Read about Laffer Curve for a start.
> Read about Laffer Curve
Your comment lost all credibility right here