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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Why no ryzen ai max+ 395?

It feels like this mobile chip has been hijacked for a bunch of mini desktops, a single ASUS tablet that you can’t use with a keyboard without a desk to stand it on, and a single HP laptop that (while actually the only real mobile computer) is priced insanely for even the low RAM variants.

What a waste.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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> External adapters are a thing of the past. This is both hilarious and so perfect, because they're still external adaptors , they're frickin' USB-C dongles! They just fit them within the bounding box of the laptop. Such a simple, effective solution (if you're willing to sacrifice some volume)

It looks like the Ethernet one actually sticks out of the case so that's even more external - I think I would actually prefer a standard USB-C adapter in this case.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I personally just cannot accept that there’s no WWAN option available. Tethering with your phone is just nowhere close to what one would expect out of it in 2025.

A WWAN modem surely would fit into the IO module form factor, no? The framework 16 got 6 slots. Seems like the way to go.

Some tried, it won't. Plus, you need antenna.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Framework purchasers != Linux users

I don't know a single person that bought a Framework and put Windows on it as the primary OS. I wish Framework would actually find out what their customers are using, maybe with a survey, because I'd be highly surprised if it was less than 2/3rds Linux (or other FOSS).

I keep Windows on my Framework (11th gen Intel) because using Linux on it makes it suffer from inability to sleep and terrible battery life. I've tried all the tricks to make Linux work and I've only eeked out an extra hour of use, if that.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I'm one month into owning a GMKTec Evo-X2 with the new mad AMD gpu in it and so far I've managed to get Ollama running. ROCm doesn't officially support the GPU and everything seems to be hacky workaround on top of hacky workaround. Starting to wish I'd just waited for NVIDIA to actually release the project digits thing.

So, how did you get it running? I‘m about to get a Bosgame M5 (same CPU).

Installing the ROCm nightlies from TheRock and upgrading the linux kernel to 6.16. However the kernel upgrade breaks a ton of other things, notably dkms.

I've been trying for weeks to get ComfyUI to not explode without success.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Pricing is... steep. Almost $2500 before tax for a very mid-tier gaming laptop.

It’s not really a gaming laptop, it’s more like a workstation that happens to be decent at gaming. They’ve even mentioned in another video I watched that their fastest growing segment is business customers. Their systems have unique features and value proposition nobody else is offering so they can charge more than competitors. Let’s also not forget that the gaming market does have a high end segment that is definite…

> Their systems have unique features and value proposition nobody else is offering so they can charge more than competitors.

But that also puts them out of the market of users where those unique features would be a selling point but are not required which is probably much bigger.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

#387

still no OLED

Is this really a valid complaint? From what I've read most pro users still prefer IPS over OLED.

It absolutely is a valid complaint. Having true blacks is a night and day difference that you don't want to go back on once you have experienced it. OTOH many OLED panels have weird sub-pixel layouts that are bad for text display but that's something that Framework is a better position to have input on than an end user.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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It does not make sense to praise a company for selling defective products because some of the customers have the ability to repair the defect.

It's a massive step up from the status quo of companies selling defective products without customers having the ability to repair the defect.

Well then, you live in the best of worlds because every laptop is repairable even at the chip level or individual capacitor/resistor/connector level. All you need is a workshop, a multimeter, oscilloscope, probes, a hot air gun, a microscope, a variety of soldering tools, a variety of solder, solder mask, access to schematics and donor boards, and a lifetime of experience. Here's a guy who repairs Dell laptops all day every day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDsP1--ttQc

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Like it or not, Nvidia is the dominant player in the GPU space. They have objectively the most powerful GPUs and the best support for development (CUDA). It would be cutting out a massive chunk of Framework's potential customers to not even offer Nvidia GPUs. I don't like Nvidia at all, they're a scummy company. But just offering their products as an option is not "openly hostile and offensive" to Linux users. That's…

Not really. Until modern times, Intel was the largest GPU manufacture, unless you include phones, then it was Qualcomm. Now it's AMD, between computers, consoles, and the datacenter. DGPUs for the desktop aren't really all that relevant for either AMD and NV's bottom lines, they're not major sellers. Switch sales also aren't enough to compete with combined Xbox/Playstation sales. A lot of claims of NV's superiority i…

NV's real superiority is developer market share. Too many things are developed for Nvidia first with other options an afterthought if supported at all.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.

I'm very impressed you managed to get nvidia to give you access to the 5070! I have one queetion though, is the 5070 limited to 100W because of the docking connector, or for cooling reasons?

Ain't no way this cooling system is handling a 100W GPU comfortably.
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