ADHD drug treatment and risk of negative events and outcomes

Post by andoando » Sat, Aug 16, 2025, 2:25 PM UTC

ttul wrote: post #244

homefree wrote: post #133

My hypothesis about this for a long time has been stimulants help everyone be more productive (with some tradeoffs) and ADHD is kind of a weakly differentiated diagnosis that could apply to most people. Probably something like this was lost when people stopped smoking, obviously beneficial for health - but a huge amount of the public was taking stimulants regularly via nicotine until relatively recently.

Your hypothesis is contracted by mountains of high quality scientific evidence. ADHD is a well-defined condition and there is an accepted way of diagnosing someone with it that effectively divides those with the condition from those without it. Stimulant medications may help many people to feel and be more productive, but that does not imply that people who meet the criteria for ADHD do not represent an identifiable…

Post by rjh29 » Sat, Aug 16, 2025, 2:38 PM UTC

kayodelycaon wrote: post #362

hilux wrote: post #292

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There are non-stimulant ADHD meds as well. Most of us don't get a chance to try all of them. In fact, I was surprised to learn that Adderall is highly illegal in many countries, including Japan and South Korea( ), both of which have a higher standard of healthcare, and a much longer life expectancy, than the US does. In other words, they're not anti-health. ( ) In theory, you can bring Adderall into South Korea with…

I’m using Wellbrutin, which is a NDRI (norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitor) antidepressant. The main reason for this is because I’m also bipolar. First-line stimulants for ADHD cause manic episodes.

Post by nialse » Sat, Aug 16, 2025, 2:59 PM UTC

briandw wrote: post #171

This was an observational study, not a randomized control trial. Access to care is one plausible confounder. Individuals who receive treatment may differ systematically in socioeconomic status, healthcare access, parental advocacy, comorbidities—from those who do not, affecting outcomes.

Post by Henchman21 » Sat, Aug 16, 2025, 3:05 PM UTC

radu_floricica wrote: post #377

LoganDark wrote: post #324

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> I still struggle to see how it's used recreationally. - Adderall keeps you awake. Some people use that to be awake for very long periods of time. Long drives, marathons, etc. - Adderall can make boring tasks seem engaging, so it can be used, for example, to help a student study. Combining that with no need to sleep that night, can become a bit of an unfair advantage. - Adderall can cause a high, even though I've on…

That's not recreationally. That's actually a good, useful drug effect (even if not specifically for ADHD). I'm more than a little pissed that governments don't let us use drugs like this responsibly.

Post by scns » Sat, Aug 16, 2025, 3:08 PM UTC

Llamamoe wrote: post #304

Nikolas0 wrote: post #168

My $0.02 as a response to several comments I read in this thread: I was diagnosed with ADHD in my 40s and got Concerta. My belief is that ADHD is not a disease, nor a disability (even though it acts like one very frequently) and in fact there is evidence that ADHD is an important part of our evolution as a species. The problem(s) mostly relies with the modern way of life and what is expected from the society at large…

This is a common belief people have, especially those with mild ADHD or those who wish to be dismissive of the disorder. Unfortunately, in reality while there are some very limited advantages, as a whole ADHD is a whole-brain dysfunction where your neurons are literally incapable of maintaining their level of operation as long as in a healthy person, with ALL of your executive functions - all self-regulation, plannin…