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Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by Lio »

vardump wrote: post #39
v5v3 wrote: post #34

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Russia and all non-usa allies have been the winner. China etc have seen the strategies used in sanctions. They know how to limit their impact now. It's also brought Russia/China/Iran/North Korea and wider Brics together. It's been a disaster for the west. The measure of success was Russia weakened and ideally Putin weakened or gone. And instead Russia have shrugged off the sanctions, and Putin is much stronger. And t…

China has been a big winner, it can now get cheap energy and it gets to set Russia whatever conditions it pleases. Russia is now utterly dependent on China for many imports. Russia itself has been the biggest loser. Massive budget deficits, massive inflation. 1M of its smartest people have moved abroad. 1M Russian casualties in the war. Demographics and economy are disastrous. That and Russia is now a pariah state. N…

I think before the invasion of Ukraine the chance of China regaining Vladivostok would have been almost zero.

Completely unthinkable.

Now Russia is so dependant on China that they could just ask nicely for it back and Russia would have to hand it over without China firing a shot.

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Post by e40 »

hosh wrote: post #307

The headline of the article called these people cyber activists, and in the text of the article, they were called cybercriminals. Which is it? It reminds me a bit with the situation with privateers during the age of sail. These were often people operating at the edge of the law, or even outright outlaws, given a letter of marque, a license to raid warships and commerce against a specific adversary. I'm sure out on th…

Most likely they are being organized by the UKR military. So, not criminals, for sure.

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

tmiku wrote: post #304
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

> I helped to recover my nearby hospital as a volunteer when it was ransomwared. I'm curious about how you got in the door here. Very cool, but isn't healthcare IT notoriously cagey about access? I've had to do PHI training and background checks before getting into the system at my (admittedly only 2) PHI-centered jobs. Granted, if it was such an emergency, I could see them rushing you through a lite version of the H…

The nature and place of my work helped to quickly clear this.

I volunteered to help because I knew that even broadly planning the recovery, evidence preservation etc. would be completely beyond the capabilities of the two IT folks (they were extremely nice and helpful, and glad that there was someone to help).

I was there to draw things on the board and ask the questions that will help to recover. I would not have (nor want, not have the need) to access patient information. This is something I warned them about early in the process, as the chaos was growing.

You need to imagine a large hospital completely blocked, with patients during an operation being stabilized and driven away.

I am used to crisis situations and having someone who will anticipate things you do not think about (how to communicate, how to reach prople having planned procedures, who does what and who talks with whom) is a useful person to have before the authorities kick in.

My wife had a planned operation that morning and I was on site when the ransomware hit, it is just this. Nothing James Bond like, just sheer luck to have been around.

The hospital made a recovery but it took about a year IIRC

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Post by aspenmayer »

15155 wrote: post #268
andrelaszlo wrote: post #79

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Just the other day one of my clients had a production critical server failing and we started restoring it from backups. Turns out some of the software running on it had some weird licensing checks tied to the hardware so it refused to start on the new server. It turns out that the company that made this important piece of software doesn't even exist anymore.

> Turns out some of the software running on it had some weird licensing checks tied to the hardware so it refused to start on the new server. This is around the time when you call that one guy on your team that can reverse engineer and patch out the license check.

Interoperability exception might allow this in exigent circumstances when you do have a valid license, but I wouldn’t do this without running it by the software vendor whose license you are using. In a recovery situation, you’ll probably need to be on the phone a lot, so I can see how you might think it’s quicker to bypass the license check, but that is one person giving some or all of their attention just to that. Disaster recovery isn’t a one person job unless that one person was the whole team anyway, so I think this idea needs to be calibrated somewhat to expectations.

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BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

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Post by Theodores »

pegasus wrote: post #376
Theodores wrote: post #328

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Some assumptions here. First off, we only have one side of the story to go on. Often this can be embroidered, particularly if there is propaganda value from doing so. They could be using version control for their software with every developer having all of the software they have developed for their products git-cloned to their development machines. Assuming a modest development team working with version control (who…

You're right about this being a one-sided story, but not to suspect ChatGPT - it has none of the hallmarks of AI slop, plus it brings up a couple of reasonable and relevant points. You're only addressing a tiny part of the comment, but the rest stands, in my opinion.

The whole Ukraine situation is an intelligence test. In wartime you never have complete information so it is not like a game of chess where you know what the board is, what the pieces are and the play so far. Some fog of war is expected.

With the hacks that Snowden, Assange and their ilk participated in, we had stuff uploaded somewhere for the world to see. In this way it was self evident that stuff had been exfiltrated.

In this instance we can assume the drone company are going to deny everything. However, if we had some of their trade secrets uploaded somewhere then a data breach could be considered plausible. Or a recorded screen cast of the hack.

However, the intended audience for this story doesn't care about hard evidence, they just need a morale boost, and belief trumps reason on these situations.

My school history teacher taught me how to look at evidence and it is not rocket science. Hence why Ukraine is like an intelligence test nobody thought they needed. If people can't do critical thinking about some war that has been on the news for more than three years, how are they supposed to do science or anything else that needs critical thinking?

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Post by 93po »

consumer451 wrote: post #366
93po wrote: post #365

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Ghost of Kyiv was recognized by Ukraine itself as a myth. Snake Island "go fuck yourself" was misrepresented (they were killed vs captured), plenty of others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_in_the_Russian_... There's also just endless small stuff (shorts/tiktoks/cam footage) on social media (reddit) that really does not pass the sniff test. I think what Russia is doing is terrible, I am not defending th…

The ghost of Kyiv was recognized as a myth at the time of it's spread. The Snake Island story is understandable. Every country makes mistakes about KIA vs. MIA. I was not very clear, but I meant Ukrainian intelligence services claiming operational success where there was none. It's also interesting that this Wikipedia entry appears devoid of UA false propaganda after 2022. I wonder if they realized that this was not…

it is worth something if it's recognized as a myth by official sources at the time, but it doesn't change that social media (reddit) was absolutely jammed full of stuff about it, presenting it as factual, and has led probably millions of people to believe it was real. and even beyond the posts that were explicitly about it, comment sections continued to refer to it in serious ways. my whole point is there is a concerted effort to spread it as an "us vs them" narrative, with ukraine being the "us" part (as an american).

what i ultimately care about is manipulation, because manipulation and disinformation erode democracy, and it's overwhelmingly done by the rich and powerful and at the expense of the working class. there are endless billions of dollars getting funneled into the military industrial complex around ukraine, and the more americans align with ukraine, and the more americans can feel invested and interested in the war in happy-feel-good-ways (like having heroes and "fuck russia" moments) the more americans are okay with their tax dollars getting spent this way. whatever machinery is at play here has very successfully captured the support of a massive part of the American left, and the same people you see protesting about the environment are the same people you see waiving ukraine flags and being manipulated into suddenly being pro-war despite being against things like the war in iraq.

billionaires continue to make their billions, people continue to believe what they read on reddit and watch on corporate news, and the narrative is always things that aren't class consciousness.

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Post by barbazoo »

paganel wrote: post #370
barbazoo wrote: post #217

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Thankfully they don’t think it’s worth invoking article 5 over that. It’s not an automatism obviously, we’re talking about WW3 here. Would you rather be “technically” right here?

> Thankfully they don’t think it’s worth invoking article 5 over that Is there a threshold anywhere in the NATO treaty that I'm unaware of?

If there wasn't, wouldn't we had WW3 already?

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Post by heraldgeezer »

rdtsc wrote: post #324
behringer wrote: post #289

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It's good for children in the US to learn early that they can't trust the police.

In which country can the children trust the police?

In general, the most civilized part of the world, western & north europe.

So, Norway, Dennmark, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Spain, Austria, Switzerland

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