let's convert this one to kotlin multiplatform...
Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
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Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Works best in areas with patchy or no internet, or under censorship. The biggest problem I immediately foresee is that this sounds backwards. It doesn't work best in areas with patchy or no internet, it works best in areas with lots of participating devices. It's most needed in areas with patchy or no internet, but those areas are likely to be the opposite of the areas with lots of participating devices.
If your country shuts off Internet access for demonstrations this would work great.
Yeah, I used an older version of a bluetooth messaging app like this. We wish it had been available in the times of Tahrir Square, but it was actually helpfull onetime when my bus stopped at a rural Ethiopian bus stop, my girlfriend ran into the bathroom but was taking too long and I was able to warn her that the bus was getting ready to leave.
Wireless internet is getting better, but when you really need something like this, you really need it.
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#383How does this differ from FireChat? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireChat
good question. but FireChat never took off for some reason(s).
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#384"Can I get your bitch at?"
I will Woof it to you
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
Advice: next time pay attention before sending, all wallets ask for confirmation prior to sending, for what is it worth. Always double check, or triple check.
and then what? I just got sent real estate documents because the sender used my uncommon firstNameLastName@ gmail, but because they had a typo of the last name it landed in my inbox.
Are we talking about cryptocurrencies? Because they are not based on e-mail.
In fact, I have no idea how your comment is relevant to losing money.
You accidentally got someone else's document. How is that relevant to losing money?
As a reminder, you said: "I lost ~$1,000 in a bad transfer because of a typo.". How can you lose ~$1,000 because of someone else's typo in which an e-mail landed in your inbox?
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
People who don't like traditional banking system just want a system where they have more money. If they actually wanted to fix fairness etc creating a new system is not a way, you can make the old system fairer like you can make a new unfair one
The old system is a centralized one where there is one entity in charge which gets to set the level of fairness, unless you mean the meta-system whereby anyone can create a new system where they will be the dictator.
Nobody ever addresses the money laundering issue or wash trading that goes on that gives Bitcoin the illusion of liquidity.
>".... one entity in charge which gets to set the level of fairness"
Exactly what is unfair about the current system? The way we insure fairness is with laws and regulation. A system without those will suffer - well - lawlessness.
How is it centralized? The vast majority of dollars only exist as bits in computers in multiple banks all over the world. Doesn't get more distributed than that. Not only that - if you don't like dollars trade it for Euro's or Yen - you can pay your rent, mortgage and buy things with them also.
Other benefits of the current system. If someone steals my credit card I'm only on the hook for $50. My transactions are confirmed in a matter seconds pretty much anywhere in the world. I AutoPay many of my bills. If I set up automatic payments with Bitcoin I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
There are problems that Bitcoin could help solve - it just isn't replacing currencies. I see a technology in search of a problem.
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#387Reminds me of nntp, from back when the Internet wasn't 'always on' or fully connected.
NNTP is alive and well, as is USEnet.
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#388Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
The old system is a centralized one where there is one entity in charge which gets to set the level of fairness, unless you mean the meta-system whereby anyone can create a new system where they will be the dictator.
Nobody ever addresses the money laundering issue or wash trading that goes on that gives Bitcoin the illusion of liquidity. >".... one entity in charge which gets to set the level of fairness" Exactly what is unfair about the current system? The way we insure fairness is with laws and regulation. A system without those will suffer - well - lawlessness. How is it centralized? The vast majority of dollars only exist as…
If you don't think the government is corrupt, I don't know what to tell you. You can keep on using your "fair" government currency (which the government prints by the hundred billion and gives to its billionaire friends) for everything, I'll be over here wishing for alternatives to Bitcoin.
Do you even hold significant government currency, or do you only hold the layer-2 bank currency, and stocks?
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#390I’ve been toying with a concept inspired by Apple’s Find My network: Imagine a decentralized, delay-tolerant messaging system where messages hop device-to-device (e.g., via Bluetooth, UWB, Wi-Fi Direct), similar to how “Find My” relays location via nearby iPhones. Now add a twist: • Senders pay a small fee to send a message. • Relaying devices earn a micro-payment (could be tokens, sats, etc.) for carrying the messag…
I cannot imagine how that would work when there are gaps between populations, such as villages. There are so many places where you have gap of several kilometers until the next village or city. How do you plan to bridge that gap? And if someone tries and fails to send a message across such a gap, is it stored on every phone in the vicinity? That could lead to unwanted conditions (large queues, multiple delivery), whi…
There's going to be people who travel more often between the two network islands already so there's several ways you could do it. The network as a whole could track nodes who often see rarely seen nodes and navigate packets towards those 'bridge/traveller' nodes or the nodes themselves could keep track of nodes they commonly see and choose to cache more messages intended for those nodes it thinks it might reach in village B in the future.
It gets more complex if there's messages intended for Village C where no one from Village A visits though without some deleterious privacy impacts from needing to know what nodes see what other nodes but if the messages are relatively small you can address that with just increasing the level of optimistic caching and forwarding perhaps. Also the higher bandwidth the link the better so you can transfer more of these optimistic packets.
I'm generally against strapping a coin to this since it seems inevitably to hamper end user adoption in favor of making money for speculators and the people in the ICO. It could incentivize creating static point to point links though by providing potential revenue. Not sure that gets over the downsides of strapping a coin onto this though.