Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Working on databases from prison

turso.tech

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

381–390 of 567 posts

Re: Working on databases from prison

#381

Post by dfxm12 »

tux3 wrote: post #352
cortesoft wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He played a lot smaller part than the Sackler family, who ran Purdue Pharma and pushed their drugs into communities. They killed a lot more people than this guy, and yet none of them are in jail.

The Sacklers are comfortably above the law and that's a bad thing, but that doesn't make small time carfentanyl operations any less bad Evil is a threshold, it's not a competition with limited spots Sometimes big crime families or notorious serial killers get away with it, but it doesn't lower the threshold for anyone else It doesn't make it any better that someone else is doing even worse. You don't get to do a litt…

Focus on the bad thing, not piling on the guy who is serving his sentence (while also making a new life for himself).

Re: Working on databases from prison

#383

Post by einpoklum »

> I've spent just under 10 years of my life in Prison (all for non-violent drug crimes.)

(sigh) another victim of the US obsession with sticking as many people as possible in prison. I wish the regime is overthrown somehow and he can get released.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#384

Post by badc0ffee »

refulgentis wrote: post #379
badc0ffee wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Non-violent drug crimes" brings to mind hippies selling weed or mushrooms. But this guy was selling carfentanil. I'm not saying he's to blame for the opioid crisis turning street people into shambling zombies, clogging emergency services with overdoses, and causing death, but he certainly played a part.

I find it somewhat amusing that I woke up to this post at ~9 AM, and was surprised at the crowding-out of discussion about the article, by people sort of half-groping at a straw or two they picked up, trying to make a definitive case on his...goodness? morality?...based off the straw they're holding. It is now 4 PM, about to clock out for the day because I gotta wait for CI run thats >30m. I come back here and it's s…

> trying to make a definitive case on his...goodness? morality?

Speaking for myself, I'm actually just discussing the idea that a non-violent crime like drug dealing necessarily deserves a light sentence in general.

> Sounds like a you thing

It is a me thing. That's why I said "brings to mind".

I'm a product of my time. I remember when weed and psychedelics meant demonization and heavy sentences, and it was absurd because those substances aren't that dangerous.

This is the context in which I'm accustomed to calling drug dealing a "non-violent crime". So, I feel like I need to point out that things are not quite the same with deadly drugs like carfentanil.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#385

Post by Retric »

snickerdoodle12 wrote: post #353
Retric wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can agree to pay for them at a given prices via email or slack. It’s more or less guaranteed that contraband will get into prisons if someone is willing to pay for it. Thus the rules around no cash or phones for prisoners. Inmates are treated very differently by the legal system than regular people. Thirteenth Amendment: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the part…

You can also do that via a butt phone, which are everywhere.

That heavily depends on the facility. Phones aren’t that difficult to track down as a radio device, but such efforts are rare.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#386

Post by ponector »

cycomanic wrote: post #357
ponector wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

And you take personal responsibility if someone innocent is convicted? Once you have executed someone there is no coming back. Or are you saying you're OK with some innocents being killed so you can save some money (taxes)?

It takes 5-25 years is the USA to execute a person. Someone can argue what is worse: to live 20 more years in prison or to be executed.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#387

Post by croemer »

croemer wrote: post #246

Great story, I wish this inspired more prisons around the world to follow suit. For those who don't want to hit Google, the conviction was for possessing 30g of a synthetic opioid "U-47700". A normal dose is ~1mg, 10mg can be deadly (so this was 30000 trips or killing 3000). The drug became illegal across the US on November 14, 2016. "Police said they found the drug in Thorpe’s apartment in Manchester in December 201…

Turns out TFA lies on his blog:

> and some marijuana coming from california (the latter of which is what I am currently serving my time for right now). (https://pthorpe92.dev/intro/my-story/)

He's downplaying his crime. It wasn't just Marijuana.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#388

Post by larodi »

mlissner wrote: post #87

Maine's remote work program is an incredibly promising development to prevent recidivism. The amazing thing about it is that it gives real jobs to prisoners that they can seamlessly continue after they get out of prison. Normally when you get out, it's impossible to get a job, and the clock is ticking. This leads to desperation, which leads to bad behavior. There is a real risk of exploitation, but if it's properly m…

Wonder if they acquire the skills to break into systems, why would they choose not to do it in this crazy world out there? Particularly if somebody spends long time, or has spent so far.

Re: Working on databases from prison

#389

Post by croemer »

gpm wrote: post #375
swdev281634 wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But this guy was selling carfentanil Do you have a source? It seems that guy was selling MDMA and marijuana. Here's the relevant quote from https://pthorpe92.dev/intro/my-story/ I was caught with MDMA coming in the mail from Vancouver, and some marijuana coming from california (the latter of which is what I am currently serving my time for right now)

Gluing a few stories together (links included below where I'm not citing to your link) it seems like: ~2012 he was caught selling MDMA and marijuana, and went to prison ~end or 2015 or start of 2016 he was released on probation [Edit: Added entry] December 2016 police responding to a domestic violence call enter his apartment to make contact with the alleged victim, and discover U-47700 (a synthetic opioid) https://w…

Or he's downplaying the seriousness of the crime. Thanks for digging!

Re: Working on databases from prison

#390

Post by conductr »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #329
conductr wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many deadly chemicals are in an average home? Every time I fill up my car with gas, I buy enough to commit dozens of cases of arson. Intent matters and there's no reason to believe he intended to harm anyone. I believe it's a crime and should be a felony but this sentence is a bit extreme in terms of punishment fitting the crime.

the conviction was literally for the intent to distribute; RTFM

I read it and I simply don't think intent to distribute should be synonymous with intent to kill. There are violent crimes with actual victims that serve less time than this. This is a mathematical calculation of damage that could have been done in worst possible scenario, no evidence of that scenario playing out at all.

This math of weights and maximum hypothetical carnage produces very unfair sentencing.

Post reply on HN