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xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Google pays Apple some 20 billion a year for search primacy on iphones

That shows that their trust in users selecting google as primary if given the option when setting up a new device is not high. Otherwise they’d negotiate it down.

I think the point is that users mostly don't bother selecting their search provider, many will simply use what is pre-configured. Google is paying Apple so nobody else will.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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I really don't get the sentiment of everything Russia. Russia has the GDP of a province of China. Russia does not have a thriving manufacturing sector. Russia has increasingly less influence or power over the world. Why would powerful people in the US succumb to to Russia's influence? That just does not make sense. If anything, maybe the Lenin-loving Stalin-admiring Marxists would love Russia, like half of the univer…

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You cited your sources, but they are flagged and removed :)

Because dang them, right?

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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What ads is Telegram showing? I can't think of any, except a peristent birthday reminder. I also agree with the sibling comment that Telegram is sadly the best chat app I've used not only for group chats but also for 1-to-1 chats. Edit: there are paid emojis or stickers too, now that I think about it.

There is humble text ads in public channels. There is no ads in 1v1 or group chats so you probably just didn't see it.

I see, I haven't seen these as I'm indeed not interested in using a chat app for public channels.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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> Let's assume Pavel and Elon had a phone call and agreed on the deal. One of them or both are entitled to announce it. Lol, because it was Elon himself who called out Durov's original tweet with his "no deal has been signed" response. So obviously the agreement was not agreed upon yet. Ironically this sounds just like Elon's infamous "funding secured" tweet. I'm tired of all these bullshitting bullshitters, and then…

Obviously one of them though they had an agreement and other didn't. Or maybe Elon is backpedaling after being hand-slapped by US of A administration for dealing with what they potentially consider to be unfriendly social media network.

I believe the current US of A administration considers them friendly. All dictatorships except China are "friendly" now.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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If this is something their users actually wanted, they'd be paying xAI, not the other way around.

A pretty clear admission that Twitter failed as a distribution channel.

Or.. an understanding that not all users reside in the same silos.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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The situation just got murkier: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1927839555828220165 ("@durov @grok No deal has been signed")

And Pavel Durov responded: > True. Agreed in principle, but formalities are pending. This is how I know I'm not cut out for business - because I just can't lie with total impunity. Like, how could you do a global, public announcement like this when there is no dry ink, and the other side obviously hasn't authorized you to announce, and feel literally zero shame ("formalities are pending", lol). I feel like more and m…

I am going through 'Signal and Noise' by Nate Silver and, after dismissing it at first read, now I am starting to wonder if his attempt to categorize some people on how well they can predict things is onto something. The boorish bravado ( or at least a perception of it ) is clearly part of the requirement though. You simply cannot even register to people with all the noise around them.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Maybe xAI has some interesting way to make money in other places, like Google paying Mozilla for making Google search the default choice.

Google is paying Mozilla to keep Firefox on life support - so that they can pretend Chrome has competitors

> Google is paying Mozilla to keep Firefox on life support - so that they can pretend Chrome has competitors

And to collect firefox user data. That't why firefox is always connected to e100.net.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Well, as a 9-year user of Telegram, I expected some monetization and paid mode, but looks like we're going to be used otherwise, for more free cheese.

I have a premium account as I really like the idea of just paying for the service I use.

I highly assume that the AI will be integrated in a way that you can mostly disable it or barely notice it if you aren't looking for it, like all the other paid or special features.

So many people never noticed stars, NFTS, a whole nft market, pay for messages, pay for groups, ... While using it ever day

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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So that means Telegram users will use XAI for free, which means it will cost xAI potentially multiple times of $300M a year to serve the Telegram users?

It looks like Telegram sold the US government a back door to users' messages.

Because you assume all messages will be relayed to AI?
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