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Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

#381

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Apple makes gobsmack amount of profit from both devices and gambling apps(they don't do games) that easily cover costs of demo units. It'll be harder if you only sell only one type of fancy low-volume gadget at $499.

1) Why does Apple make "gobsmack amount(s) of profit"? Perhaps there's a strategy that leads to this. I believe the memes version is "Says 'because they're rich'; refuses to elaborate; leaves" 2) My example was clothing. I certainly think this makes sense as a setting in such an environment. Let you look and try. Directly sell most common sizes, transfer to online purchase for others. You can even have employees meas…

This isn't "if you run into assholes all day" situation, but I think it should be more widely recognized that Apple is slowly regressing into a casino franchise. They sell slot machines that also support phone and media consumption, and keep fraction of sales made on slot machines.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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1) Why does Apple make "gobsmack amount(s) of profit"? Perhaps there's a strategy that leads to this. I believe the memes version is "Says 'because they're rich'; refuses to elaborate; leaves" 2) My example was clothing. I certainly think this makes sense as a setting in such an environment. Let you look and try. Directly sell most common sizes, transfer to online purchase for others. You can even have employees meas…

This isn't "if you run into assholes all day" situation, but I think it should be more widely recognized that Apple is slowly regressing into a casino franchise. They sell slot machines that also support phone and media consumption, and keep fraction of sales made on slot machines.

I don't deny that about Apple[0], but that seems irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43873275

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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I remember more than a decade ago I used this [0] keyboard on my HP Jornada Palm Pilot. Surprised to see it's still being sold. Folds up into a nice case. [0] https://eshop-cy.com/en/product/targus-pa820u-stowaway-porta...

I couldn’t find anywhere selling Stowaway keyboard. It was discontinued for a long time. I have one of the Bluetooth models that got for Palm which still works.

I'm jealous. That's awesome.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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> You are missing that I've talked about how there's more business value than direct sales. Could you please provide enough detail here in your example, that we can discuss and quantify what that value is , so we can compare it with the cost of running the store? Let's say we have an "all the XR glasses" store that lets visitors try on different XR glasses and see what fits, and the visitors then later buy them from…

I believe I have provided an explanation that is easy to understand. Here is the original statement

  >>>>>> Malls offered a lot more business value than just facilitating direct purchases. They do a lot to build brands, loyalty, and advertise to customers.
I am not sure what you are expecting or what you are taking contention with.

If you wish for a thorough analysis then my answer is "This is Hacker News". Such an expectation is excessive and out of scope of the platform.

I am happy to have my statements rebutted and critiqued but not by accusation of failing to account for widely understood and basic conditions. If you believe I am improperly evaluating the costs of these, then that is another matter and I am happy to have those discussions. Even if these are the conjecture of two rational and reasonably informed people without direct and detailed analysis. If you wish to seek out research and do detailed analysis I not only will not stop you, I'd encourage you. This would be a great way to counter my comment and have a high likelihood of changing my belief/understanding of the environment.

  > p.s.: on multiple posts,
Yes, there is part of me in this. Part of me that wishes to uphold a degrading standard in conversation quality. Forgive me if I wish to push back when critiques are derailing a conversation or are not operating in good faith. I do in fact believe that we should not treat other uses as children and part of that is operating under the assumption that other users are reasonably informed (unless otherwise explicitly indicated).

Frankly, because not operating under this belief generates fighting, degrades conversations, and derails conversations. As others might more succinctly say "this isn't Reddit." I am only trying to be explicit in stating why such retorts are low quality.

It appears that frequently people do not realize the assumptions that their responses makes.

  > I already know [because I am smart]
You misunderstand.

The push-back is not "because I am smart" but rather "because I am not incredibly ignorant."

I do not want to conflate the two. They are significantly different. The reason "I already know" is conditioned on my intelligence being above that of a child. This is what generates the insult and the more aggressive follow-up after they doubled down. It is not conditioned on being above average, nor being in the "smart" category.

Let's look at the original response

  >>>>> Bricks and mortar stores cost money just to exist
Do you understand how this makes the claim that I do not understand that physical stores have operating expenses? Do you understand why I believe why such an accusation necessitates the belief that I am incredibly naive? Would you not agree that such information is common knowledge?

Mind you, my original comment also demonstrates awareness that these physical stores have operational costs. My critique makes no sense otherwise, as there would be no reason to even close these stores if they were free to operate. So this contributes to the reason danparsonson's response is inappropriate and insulting. It is in bad faith (the faith being I'm not malicious nor unreasonable).

I think you should also look back to how I responded much differently to 20after4. I did equally push back at their first point which is equally egregious. But I move on and engage with the rest. Their comment has additional substance and isn't entirely contingent upon excessive naivety, whereas that is all there is to danparsonson's (their third line completely ignores my entire thesis of physical locations providing value other than direct sales and is itself making the same error I am criticizing: hyper-fixation on measuring operational value through direct sales). So they get different responses.

  > Let's focus on substance.
This is my explicit intention. I hope that is now clear.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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I think the next version of Android is supposed to include a terminal that can run Linux. I don't know the specifics but it would be better than having to root the phone and use chroot. It's sad that a phone running java on top of Linux isn't able to run Linux app without big downside like termux and proot. Hopefully it changes.

Android has a terminal in the newer beta versions, indeed - a proper one it was sorta possible before too, but now, it can start up programs with a window etc (and of course someone ran doom on it)

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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I think the next version of Android is supposed to include a terminal that can run Linux. I don't know the specifics but it would be better than having to root the phone and use chroot. It's sad that a phone running java on top of Linux isn't able to run Linux app without big downside like termux and proot. Hopefully it changes.

I have Android 15 (regular release) and it's there. Feels snappy I didn't use it to run desktop environment though.

Well it's great news, I'm excited to try it !

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Mainly lack of text clarity, resolution, jitter when trying to keep the image still with the xreal beam, and low FOV

that's really good to know When you look at reviews they all exclaim how clear and crisp it is, but they are virtually never looking at text, which is approximately the only thing I want to look at.

I compare it to VR headsets, and I've used most of them. I currently use a Quest Pro and consider that clearer and easier to read than the Air 2 Pros

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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First, a couple of things to clear up. If I came across as insulting you or anyone else, then I'm sorry - that was not my intention. I'm trying to express my confusion because I think we're talking across each other somehow, and I don't understand how. Secondly, and related to that - when I said 'Perhaps I'm missing something?', that was intended as a genuine invitation to you to fill me in on what obvious/non-obviou…

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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> You are missing that I've talked about how there's more business value than direct sales. Could you please provide enough detail here in your example, that we can discuss and quantify what that value is , so we can compare it with the cost of running the store? Let's say we have an "all the XR glasses" store that lets visitors try on different XR glasses and see what fits, and the visitors then later buy them from…

I believe I have provided an explanation that is easy to understand. Here is the original statement >>>>>> Malls offered a lot more business value than just facilitating direct purchases. They do a lot to build brands, loyalty, and advertise to customers. I am not sure what you are expecting or what you are taking contention with. If you wish for a thorough analysis then my answer is "This is Hacker News". Such an ex…

> I believe I have provided an explanation that is easy to understand.

If that were so, you would not have had multiple people ask you for clarification or specifics.

> Malls offered a lot more business value than just facilitating direct purchases. They do a lot to build brands, loyalty, and advertise to customers

Thanks, I think what you are missing is that it appears, based on the evidence, that the "more business value" examples you cite are often not enough to keep stores open, hence all the store closings.

This was obvious to multiple people, so the assumption on the part of multiple people was that you had some theory or model or analysis or evidence to add which would say otherwise. It appears that is not the case. Indeed, you were given the opportunity to demonstrate by example, but did not take it.

p.s.: In seeking a better conversation, I've omitted the part of your response dealing with you or me as a primary topic.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

#390

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I believe I have provided an explanation that is easy to understand. Here is the original statement >>>>>> Malls offered a lot more business value than just facilitating direct purchases. They do a lot to build brands, loyalty, and advertise to customers. I am not sure what you are expecting or what you are taking contention with. If you wish for a thorough analysis then my answer is "This is Hacker News". Such an ex…

> I believe I have provided an explanation that is easy to understand. If that were so, you would not have had multiple people ask you for clarification or specifics. > Malls offered a lot more business value than just facilitating direct purchases. They do a lot to build brands, loyalty, and advertise to customers Thanks, I think what you are missing is that it appears, based on the evidence, that the "more business…

  > If that were so, you would not have had multiple people ask you for clarification or specifics.
There are multiple conditions which can create this result. I've stated why I do not believe "lack of clarity" is sufficient justification. It may be contributing, but I'll stand by that it is insufficient given what expectation we minimally expect someone to have.

  >  examples you cite are often not enough to keep stores open, hence all the store closings.

  > This was obvious to multiple people,
This is literally post hoc ergo propter hoc logic[0]. There is insufficient evidence to believe that this is the reason stores had to close and does not consider alternative explanations. You do not have the counterfactuals here, you are just concluding that since it happened it was obvious.

Responding this way also is inappropriate to my comment too. My comment would lead to the claim that stores closed because they failed to adapt to a changing environment. This would consequentially lead to exactly identical settings.

If you want evidence for why you might want to believe this, look at Sears. A store that famously had a mail based catalogue. Their failure to adapt to internet markets is widely discussed as from a hindsight perspective it seems crazy that they didn't dominate. They were literally doing an "online store" before the internet existed. You can also look to Blockbuster, which is also famously written about.

The point is that what's obvious post hoc isn't obvious in situ. Sears made a great blunder underestimating the popularity of online stores and continuing operating as normal (not adapting). Given that one of the leaders in the market made such an "obvious" blunder, I don't think we can rule out that others didn't similarly miscalculate.

If you think this is not the case, cool! Argue that! But you should justify it. Say why I'm dumb. Evidence it. But I'm not going to accept your claim if it is premised on people being oracles. They aren't now, we have evidence that they weren't then, so I don't have reason to believe that happened. It also doesn't align well with the order in which businesses failed nor align with explaining why certain ones are still around. You miss that my claim has such an explanation. But you need to actually think about what I said...

I welcome you calling me an idiot. But if you're going to do it, put some serious effort into it.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

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