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NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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I worked at two National Laboratories, Argonne and Idaho, on NSF funded internship grants. The second one turned into a full time job, again on an NSF grant. The first one was on supercomputing, writing proof of concept code for a new supercomputing operating system (ZeptoOS). The second was on the automated stitching of imagery from UAVs for military applications (at a time when this was not commoditized at all, we…

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Must be why you pay for college right, no demand otherwise they’d be paying you!

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

I'm not the first one to see parallels to the Cultural Revolution. Policies like purging the intelligentsia and sending educated urban people to go work in the fields weren't motivated by any thought out plan, but by an irrational sense of resentment against "elites" and a desire for "purity".

I'm glad you mentioned this. I've heard analogies to the Cultural Revolution a few times in recent weeks and it's spot on.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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My dad is a university researcher. During the Biden administration he was forced to add completely unscientific DEI language to his grants if he wanted to get them funded. You just don't know about it because the media you watch doesn't report on that because they support it. So yeah, the whole Harvard thing is more of the same.

I work in academia. I don't need to rely on media to know about submitting grants. Everything you just said is a lie. I'm sorry that your dad is not a reliable source of information; maybe he has his own biases. Even if what you are saying were true, it does not compare to the grand level of academic extortion alluded to in my parent comment.

> I'm sorry that your dad is not a reliable source of information; maybe he has his own biases.

Or maybe his dad isn't even a "university researcher"?

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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I have been in and out of the academic world my entire career. I have worked as a programmer/engineer for two universities and a national lab, and worked at a startup founded by some professors. There is huge uncertainty with the people whom I have worked with, nobody seems to be sure what is going to happen, but it feels like it wont be good. Hiring freezes, international graduate students receiving emails to self d…

The irony is that in their supposed effort to "Make America Great Again" they're going to end up accelerating China's rise. We may have decided that basic research is no longer something we want to do, but China's going to continue to forge ahead and leave us in the dust. All thanks to people who have no understanding of how anything works, but only want to tear things down that they don't understand.

It is only ironic if you believe they were speaking in good faith to begin with

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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I worked at two National Laboratories, Argonne and Idaho, on NSF funded internship grants. The second one turned into a full time job, again on an NSF grant. The first one was on supercomputing, writing proof of concept code for a new supercomputing operating system (ZeptoOS). The second was on the automated stitching of imagery from UAVs for military applications (at a time when this was not commoditized at all, we…

>$10k to give people who otherwise didn't have a road into science, exactly what they need to get their foot in the door.

The current admin thinks those $10k grants are better spent by giving them to some billionaire via tax cuts. Impoverishing the many to enrich a few is a 3rd-world, banana-republic mindset, and unfortunately is not self-correcting.

The politically-connected will see the pile of money controlled by the treasury as easy money, unless there is some organization with enough independence and (arresting) power keeping a check on them.

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I worked at two National Laboratories, Argonne and Idaho, on NSF funded internship grants. The second one turned into a full time job, again on an NSF grant. The first one was on supercomputing, writing proof of concept code for a new supercomputing operating system (ZeptoOS). The second was on the automated stitching of imagery from UAVs for military applications (at a time when this was not commoditized at all, we…

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It's quite possible tariffs will make us all rich too.

Why post something this useless?

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Tesla also started without Musk.

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It speaks volumes tho that one of his clauses was to be treated as a co-founder. He clearly has a chip on his shoulder, and his technical abilities are to be questioned. Ultimately, people choose to believe Elon is smart or a good guy (saving the environment etc.). I think he is a remarkable conman. He was able to convince remarkable engineers to work on these products under the pretext of saving the environment, while paying relatively low wages (a few years ago Tesla pay was not comparable to other car manufacturers despite its California location). Also, I find it really funny that he was illegal in the US for a few months, and currently opposes immigration the way he does. Regarldess of your views on these matters, any man that takes a piece of the pie (subsidies, immigration etc.) and denies it to the next person is either a conman or a hypocrite, or both. I think he is a conman, who knows the next person will resort to tactics similar to his, and wants to avoid it. He never cared about the environment, given he is doing everything in his power to kill other EVs and maximize his own profits. There are many skeletons in the Musk and Thiel closets, enough to fill a graveyard. Hypocrisy is truly seen as a virtue in DC

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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The irony is that in their supposed effort to "Make America Great Again" they're going to end up accelerating China's rise. We may have decided that basic research is no longer something we want to do, but China's going to continue to forge ahead and leave us in the dust. All thanks to people who have no understanding of how anything works, but only want to tear things down that they don't understand.

It is only ironic if you believe they were speaking in good faith to begin with

Enough people believed it and voted for it such that they won the election.
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