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Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by mschuster91 » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:27 PM UTC

Spooky23 wrote: post #310

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They are not, yet . Assuming there will be a free and fair election in which the Democrats win, it would be a sensible move to repeal the Hague Invasion Act, ratify the Rome Statute and refer all of the 47th's admin's key figures there - that avoids any possible issues with the Supreme Court. Additionally, it would restore a bit of global confidence in the ICC and America's credibility on the global stage as well...…

The constitution prohibits ex post facto prosecution. Assuming that we continue to elect presidents, you need one to appoint an effective Attorney General (ie not Garland) and use these new king like powers of the executive to smash. The president was convicted of dozens of crimes, but nobody had the balls to throw him in jail. You have to think about 2025 solutions. The die is cast, it isn’t 1995 anymore. Nobody is…

> The constitution prohibits ex post facto prosecution.

A lot of what the 47th and people in his administration did are already punishable by law - alone the Signal affair or other violations of the Public Records Act.

It would not be a ex post facto prosecution, it would simply be a prosecution by a court of law that is reasonably free from corruption.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by bluGill » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:27 PM UTC

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Why are there two different numbers? When there is an emergency you want people to always do the right thing. Guessing the wrong number to call is not the right thing, and worse 2 numbers means there is great chance you didn't memorize either. This is well studied in human factors. Besides, anytime the other two are involved the police need to respond too - when there is a fire or medical emergency whoever can get th…

> anytime the other two are involved the police need to respond too No. When your partner has an urgent medical issue, you call the ambulance, not the police.

You want whoever is time closest to respond as well. While the ambulance is better, the police should have first aid training and a good sized first aid kit. When seconds are counting you are better off with someone partially trained who can get there fast over someone better trained who takes longer.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by ToValueFunfetti » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

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If arms are the important component, what wrong things are you saying we exclusively use that part of the constitution to defend? I don't think that part is used for much else

The only time you hear of the second amendment is to justify having guns after a massacre. Yet here we are, literally a textbook case of it, and crickets. I'm against guns and gun violence, but Americans aren't.

I don't think being against guns and gun violence is compatible with encouraging armed revolution.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by ch_sm » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:29 PM UTC

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Look, this is a losing argument. It’s ok if you prefer stuff like Zemeckis (who I might add, made a lot of melodramatic films himself) over international films, but that doesn’t them objectively better or more watchable for everybody. I’m just going to leave this random link here: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls003889355/

Look at all those top non-American films on that list: 1. Once Upon a Time in America 2. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 3. The Great Dictator 4. Lord of the Rings 5. Chinatown If there's one thing you can't associate Charlie Chaplin or Jack Nicholson with, it's Hollywood. Number 9 on your list is famous non-Hollywood filmmaker Alfred Hitchcock.

> Look at all those top non-American films on that list:

That’s not a list of non-American films, it’s a list of non-American directors.

To answer what I assume is your every so snarkily delivered point: Yes, about a third of the directors on that list ended up successful in Hollywood. Does that mean international films are bad? Probably not! Does it maybe mean even Hollywood recognizes that there is a lot of international talent, and very good international films being made? Probably yes?

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by Kirby64 » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:33 PM UTC

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> Any actual stats on people not brushing their teeth? It's not 1960 any more... And my entire point was to compare to other nations with similar development levels that don't pump it into their water supply and are doing just fine in terms of oral health. Something like 30% of people report not brushing their teeth at least once a day. Unclear if that means most of them brush every other day or some even lower frequ…

> Something like 30% of people report not brushing their teeth at least once a day. Gross, but that's their problem, not mine. There's a multitude of bad health habits, if we were actually serious, there'd be no soda or cereal on the shelves. But big ag and big health activity oppose that because they financially benefit from SNAP. Your fortified foods mention is an example of exactly how insane it all is (we subsidi…

> Gross, but that's their problem, not mine. There's a multitude of bad health habits, if we were actually serious, there'd be no soda or cereal on the shelves.

This absolutist mindset is not helpful for making progress. People want tasty, potentially bad for them foods. You can have bad food that’s made up of “real food” just fine. Fortifying bad foods to make them marginally less bad is a good thing. Don’t let great be the enemy of good. Nobody is looking at a bag of chips and saying “well because it’s got added Vitamin A, it’s good for me now!” Instead, it’s just a silent benefit.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by Spooky23 » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:46 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #381

Spooky23 wrote: post #310

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The constitution prohibits ex post facto prosecution. Assuming that we continue to elect presidents, you need one to appoint an effective Attorney General (ie not Garland) and use these new king like powers of the executive to smash. The president was convicted of dozens of crimes, but nobody had the balls to throw him in jail. You have to think about 2025 solutions. The die is cast, it isn’t 1995 anymore. Nobody is…

> The constitution prohibits ex post facto prosecution. A lot of what the 47th and people in his administration did are already punishable by law - alone the Signal affair or other violations of the Public Records Act. It would not be a ex post facto prosecution, it would simply be a prosecution by a court of law that is reasonably free from corruption.

The United States has courts. I don’t think we have a law that allows you to create another jurisdiction above that of the US Courts. That’s a change in the law.

It’s all fantasy anyway.

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Post by cafard » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:47 PM UTC

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Growing up in the 70s and 80s in Germany, I've been brainwashed by US movies and sitcoms, 90% of the things I've watched was from the US - Magnum P.I, Simon & Simon, The Fall Guy, Kojak, A-Team, Golden Girls, Mary Taylor Moore, Lou Grant, MacGyver, Knight Rider, Night Court, Family Ties, Miami Vice, The Wonder Years, Facts of Life, Love Boat, and on and on and on. I know the US better than many parts of Germany.

I know the US better than many parts of Germany I read an article years ago from a lawyer (might have been a judge) complaining that, thanks to US TV and movies, people in Sweden know more about how the US justice system works than the Swedish system. Far too many people just fall back on their US TV knowledge of how they think courts work and that they keep having to explain to the people that, no that's not how thi…

I have heard of Canadians making the same mistake.

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Post by CoastalCoder » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:50 PM UTC

peder wrote: post #308

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its very likely to cause reciprocal tariffs though, and exports of Hollywood way out weigh the imports of foreign films

There are big issues with foreign cinema. We still have a lot of structural advantages in the US to producing films. Production has shifted to other countries because of significant tax incentives. These tax incentives are a way that other countries are frankly not playing fair. The bottom line for me is that we shouldn't simply accept that films should all be filmed in Canada, Australia, the UK, or elsewhere. Hollyw…

> These tax incentives are a way that other countries are frankly not playing fair.

Honest question: what does "fair" mean in this context?

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Post by Spooky23 » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:53 PM UTC

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Because just like we have stupid people who don’t vaccinate their children from measles, we have stupid people who don’t make them brush their teeth. So rather than have them suffer with a lifetime of oral health problems, you can intervene in a transparent and cheap way to prevent these issues altogether. The introduction of fluoride dramatically improved oral health. NYC has been doing it since the 1960s, so one wo…

Any actual stats on people not brushing their teeth? It's not 1960 any more... And my entire point was to compare to other nations with similar development levels that don't pump it into their water supply and are doing just fine in terms of oral health. And by your metric, should we also pump in vitamins and other substances that our bodies crave? Maybe the Fed gov't could just skip that and force drip IV everyone a…

We do. Table salt is iodized. We add vitamin A & D to milk and bread.

You’re looking for facts to stuff a straw man. There is clear, obvious correlation between fluoridation and improved oral health. They discovered this decades ago where it was observed that oral health was better in regions where groundwater was used and fluoride occurred naturally.

By my metric, we should take reasonable measures to improve public health. I don’t suppose you’re in favor of making dental care affordable to those who can’t afford it?

If you choose to align yourself with the pseudo intellectual descendants of the John Birch society to protect your “precious bodily fluids”, I’m sorry for you.

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Post by jq-r » Mon, May 05, 2025, 2:54 PM UTC

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110 (Police), 112 (Ambulance, Fire Department) in Germany.

Why are there two different numbers? When there is an emergency you want people to always do the right thing. Guessing the wrong number to call is not the right thing, and worse 2 numbers means there is great chance you didn't memorize either. This is well studied in human factors. Besides, anytime the other two are involved the police need to respond too - when there is a fire or medical emergency whoever can get th…

Yeah its completely stupid.

I've witnessed a lady falling down the stairs banging her head hard, blood everywhere. Called 112 in my country, a guy answered, and I calmly explained what happened, and I wanted someone coming there stat. "Nah" he says, he needs to ask me some questions first. One of the questions was: "is it serious?". This is no joke, I said "yeah, its fucking serious". "Okay" he says, "You should have called emergency services directly, but he'll do me one and connect me anyways(!)".

Then I had to repeat everything again and they've then reluctantly sent a team which by the way arrived in double the time it would take me to get there from their place.

Reminds me of those endless accountability sinks. Nobody gives a shit about anything as there is no accountability.