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Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by johnnyanmac »

reginald78 wrote: post #30
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #5

Already using Tree Style Tabs. It's the one critical plugin I need. I still don't understand how anyone works without it.

It is particularly bizarre to me that the tab bar is horizontal on browsers. We switched to wide screen monitors close to 20 years ago, then stubbornly continued to waste vertical real estate for UI elements. Then webpages all went hard on mobile oriented designs and literally throw away the extra horizontal space by forcing portrait layouts. Yet we still use horizontal bars that make it hard to display tab titles an…

I guess it's just habit for me. I like having navigation on top, content in the middle, and OS operations on the bottom. The space was never much of a concern because

1. vertical content is scrollable anyway. if I lose a little space it's 1% more scrolling

2. if I do need the real estate it's one hotkey away. That's how Tree Tabs works, anyway. Use F1 to bring up the hierarchy and then hide it when unnedded

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by cassianoleal »

imcritic wrote: post #284
cassianoleal wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you like Arc but would prefer if it was open source and/or non-Blink/Chromium, Zen is based on Firefox but with an Arc-like interface. https://zen-browser.app/

Poor UI, judging by the screenshots on that page. Another piece of software that treats users as imbeciles in dire need of being saved from "clutter".

I think you missed the "If you like Arc" at the very beginning of my post. If you don't like Arc, then Zen is absolutely not for you. And that's fine.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by esnard »

godelski wrote: post #167
dizhn wrote: post #157

What a roller coaster ride of a post. Great job guys. No mention of whether the feature is available now on a stable release. What release version that is. How to enable it. How to actually use it. Where to go for documentation or bugs. And congratulations on concentrating on the one top feature request. What's next? Looking at some of the 20 year old bugs that still exist?

> No mention of whether the feature is available now on a stable release FWIW, I updated and was presented with a new tab announcing this feature. So... update. > Looking at some of the 20 year old bugs that still exist? Looks like browsers are hard https://gbhackers.com/google-to-patch-23-year-old-chrome-bug/

I've updated (Firefox 138.0) and the feature doesn't seem to exist in my browser, even when carefully reproducing the steps in the video / tutorial.

From the support page: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups

> This feature is experimental and is being introduced to the Firefox user base through a progressive rollout. It may not yet be available to all users.

I'll wait a few more days then I guess?

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by croo »

canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

Related easter egg in Android Chrome: after 100 (or 1000?) tabs it just prints ":D" instead of a number.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by PeterStuer »

canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

From what I gather from someone close to me that does this they just open things and are afraid that if they ever close it they will not find it again. Ironically if I ask her about something she kitterally has to hunt for 10 minutes or more to find the one tab out of the hundreds open.

In a similar vein these people also postpone system updates and restarts as long as possible, never shut down their machine (always hibernate) always click keep all in office apps for recovered files from the machine over months of this abuse getting some resource exhausted leading to an inevitable forced reboot.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by sph »

maccard wrote: post #278
eviks wrote: post #144

Glad thousands of users who managed to find their feature voting site pushed Mozilla to do a few baby steps Though the current interface isn't good - mandatory group names (which also waste space in the precious tab bar by default) and inability to ungroup with a single key (due to naming conflict) - adds too much friction. Also drag&drop to group is too precise, but also can't be disable, so now you can't reliably m…

Mozilla can’t win. They implement a feature and this is one of the top comments from the community that should be its target audience,

It would be preferable, as a life-long user, NOT to have a "vote for your feature" website that no one really cares about, where proposal go to die. Like many petitions websites, they exist only to delude you into thinking your voice matters, or for Mozilla to delude themselves they care about what users are vocal about.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by seltzered_ »

m4rtink wrote: post #190
seltzered_ wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but in practice I've experienced Firefox (at least under linux) getting killed by the OS when RAM runs low. I recently lost some low-priority reading projects after I couldn't recover the tab sets (they were opened months ago, so hard to dig back through history) I've found myself using Sidebery and the manual 'unload' tab option quite a bit.

I suggest using the session manager extension & having it do periodic snapshots.

Haven't heard of that one, thanks!

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by bArray »

The tab groups make a great case for having more active tabs in an organised way, but I'm concerned that over the past few years I have observed Firefox become more and more resource intensive. I have an auto tab suspender extension and I'm still running out of CPU and RAM on a machine that should be able to handle it.

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by dizhn »

esnard wrote: post #383
godelski wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No mention of whether the feature is available now on a stable release FWIW, I updated and was presented with a new tab announcing this feature. So... update. > Looking at some of the 20 year old bugs that still exist? Looks like browsers are hard https://gbhackers.com/google-to-patch-23-year-old-chrome-bug/

I've updated (Firefox 138.0) and the feature doesn't seem to exist in my browser, even when carefully reproducing the steps in the video / tutorial. From the support page: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups > This feature is experimental and is being introduced to the Firefox user base through a progressive rollout. It may not yet be available to all users. I'll wait a few more days then I guess?

In about:config, set browser.tabs.groups.enabled to true. (I am on 137)
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