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Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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I'm done with macOS, I've migrated to Linux for my general purpose computing. With every new release of macOS, Gatekeeper is becoming harder and harder to bypass, increasing Apple's control over what software can be run on macOS, forcing apps to be signed with an Apple Developer ID. While I'm happy they are taking security seriously, I'm seriously creeped out that macOS sends hashes of every executable I run to their…

What used to be a powerful, user-respecting OS is increasingly starting to feel like an iOS cousin with training wheels

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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I have two Apple TV 4Ks and both started dropping Bluetooth connections every minute or so after a recent upgrade. My headphones will cut out and when I go to pause the video I’ll be clicking frantically because the remote isn’t working either. Or I’ll be in the menu and the remote will pin to the left or right and scroll to the end of some massive YouTube list. Reboots, resets, nothing fixes it. My Apple Watch regul…

It's wild how these kinds of glitches used to be outliers, and now they're starting to feel... normal?

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Absolutely agree. This week, I can't get Chrome to connect to local servers.

ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE it says.

Yes, I said Yes to the new permission. Yes the check mark is on in Privacy, I mean all 20 of them that say "Google Chrome". Yes I toggled it off and on. Yes I rebooted. Still have to use a different browser to access my own local server because there is a new privacy feature that... doesn't work.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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post #45

Agree. Apple needs to clean up shop - MacOS has been egregiously worsening year over year. Some features like Universal Control and Continuity Camera are legitimately awesome, but they do not make up for the INSANELY slow System Settings app that gets harder to navigate with each release and which has >2s wait times for the right pane to respond to a change in the left pane. Steve Jobs would have fired the person res…

Apple used to obsess over details like these. Now it feels like they're hoping we won't notice.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My group makes a custom executable to reflash a hardware device we produce. We build it for Linux and Darwin. Trying to get the program to work with our Mac users has become harder and harder. These are all internal developers. Enabling developer mode and allowing Terminal execution isn't enough. Disabling the quarantine bit works - sometimes - but now we're getting automated nastygrams from corporate IT threatening…

There's extensive documentation. Examples: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/code-sign... https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizin... There are dedicated sections of the developer web forums: https://developer.apple.com/forums/topics/code-signing-topic https://developer.apple.com/forums/topics/code-signing-topic... ...and there's an apple developer support person, Quinn, who appea…

A lot of developers (including myself) don’t want to notarize/sign their binaries that they want to run on their own machine(s).

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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I thought it was because of my MacBook pro still being an Intel One and thought that nobody at Apple cares about that anymore. But it seems also the M family suffers from it.

Mine doesn't really sleep. It's always warmish despite all my best efforts to make it actually sleep. It's always plugged in, so no biggie, but it's annoying as hell.

Reddit wisdom says it's because of my usb peripherals, but it's just a webcam, mouse, keyboard, and a yubikey.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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I keep being tempted to write same post but named "Does all software work like shit now?", because I swear, this is not just Apple. Software in general feels more bugged as a new norm. Most websites have an element that won't load on the first try, or a button that sometimes needs to be clicked twice because the first click did nothing. Amazon shopping app needs two clicks every now and then, because the first one di…

Something I found annoying at a previous big-tech work, was how the focus on top-level metrics (read, revenue-linked metrics) meant we couldn't fix things.

There were a lot of smart people, very interested in fixing things— not only because engineers tend to like fixing things, but also because we, and everyone around us, were users too.

For example, many things related to text input were broken on the site. Korean was apparently quite unusable. I wanted to fix it. A Korean manager in a core web team wanted to fix it. But we couldn't because the incentive structures dictated we should focus on other things.

It was only after a couple years, and developing a metric that linked text-input work with top-level (read, revenue-linked) metrics, that we were able to work on fixing these issues.

I find a lot of value in the effort to make incentives objective, but at a company that was already worth half a trillion dollars at the time, I just always felt there could be more room for caring about users and the product beyond the effects on the bottom-line.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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I keep being tempted to write same post but named "Does all software work like shit now?", because I swear, this is not just Apple. Software in general feels more bugged as a new norm. Most websites have an element that won't load on the first try, or a button that sometimes needs to be clicked twice because the first click did nothing. Amazon shopping app needs two clicks every now and then, because the first one di…

You’re not wrong. I’ve assumed it’s a side effect of the way the industry deals with career advancement. If you’re an engineer or middle manager, you aren’t going to get a promotion or bonus if you say “we took feature X and made it more stable without introducing any new functionality”. The industry seems to favor adding new features regardless of quality so the teams that do it can stand out and make it look like they’re innovating. This isn’t how it has to be: if companies would recognize that better doesn’t necessarily mean “more stuff” or “change”, then people could get rewarded for improving quality of what already exists.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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post #10

There are some factual "gaps" there about how good Snow Leopard was, but I understand the sentiment. As someone who's been a Mac user since System 6 and has been consistently using Macs alongside PCs _daily_ for over 20 years I can say that Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased. It's just that me and other old-time switchers have stopped complaining about it and…

Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased

I think the decline of software went hand-in-hand with the decline of the native indie Mac app. They still exist, but when I started with the Mac (2007), there was a very rich ecosystem of native Mac apps. Most stood head and shoulders above their Linux and Windows counterparts.

Apple has nearly destroyed that ecosystem with: race-to-the-bottom pricing incited by the App Store; general neglect of the Mac platform (especially between ~2016 and Apple Silicon); and a messy reactionary toolkit story with Catalyst, SwiftUI, etc. The new toolkits seem to imply that Apple says that it's the end of AppKit, but most SwiftUI applications are noticeably worse.

With their messy toolkit story and general neglect, developers have started using Electron more and more. Sure, part of the popularity is cost savings, since Electron apps can be used on multiple platforms. But part of it is also that a Catalyst or SwiftUI app is not going to provide much more over an Electron app. They will also feel weirdly out of place and you become dependent on Apple working out quirks in SwiftUI. E.g. 1Password tried SwiftUI for their Mac app, but decided in the end that it was an uphill battle and switched to Electron on Mac instead.

I recently bought a ThinkPad to use besides my MacBook. Switching is much easier than 10 or 15 years ago, since 80% of the apps that I use most frequently (Slack, Obsidian, 1Password, etc.) are Electron anyway. Even fingerprint unlocking works in 1Password. I was vehemently anti-electron and still don't like it a lot, but I am happy that it makes moving to a non-Apple platform much easier.

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