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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by NoahKAndrews »

noname120 wrote: post #289
apparent wrote: post #48

I'm pleased the pricing is so low. I did some math and if they're making 10k of these (not clear if that's each or all together), there's not a ton of money to be made. Assuming $100 average profit, that's a $2M for 20k watches. Given the work opportunities that the founder and other employees have, that's not a lot of money for them to make in a year, and it comes with significant risk. Basically seems like this is…

I'm highly skeptical that they will sell 20k units at that price point.

That's a great price point, and there's a lot of pebble fans

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by OoTheNigerian »

I bought 2.

I understand this is a semi experiment and will not expect the warranty or certainty that an Apple will give. This is to support the possibility of making an alternative become viable.

Question for Eric, is there a way to ensure charging works with USB? Please don't make us carry yet another cable.

Thanks.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by apparent »

OoTheNigerian wrote: post #382

I bought 2. I understand this is a semi experiment and will not expect the warranty or certainty that an Apple will give. This is to support the possibility of making an alternative become viable. Question for Eric, is there a way to ensure charging works with USB? Please don't make us carry yet another cable. Thanks.

The month-long battery life ensures you won't have to carry another cable.

From the 360° shot on the product page, these appeare to use a proprietary cable, like almost all other smartwatches.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by apparent »

zhyder wrote: post #371

I'm super happy about the revival (I backed the first Pebble Kickstarter) and the bullet list of key features you're targeting would make my dream watch, but I hope you take this as constructive criticism that you're way off right now on this one: - Simple and beautiful design It's ugly, and the gap with the industrial design of today's watches is wider. I suggest contracting with a good industrial design firm to red…

I had the same reaction. The Core Time 2 gives Vader vibes. My hope is that the third color will be metallic and will look better. I prefer the rounded edges of the Pebble Time Steel 2. [1]

1: https://youtu.be/Pwq89K6RBTI?si=YTQS7wKEajlxpkBe&t=34

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

erohead wrote: post #25
voxadam wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Nordic nRF52840[1] SoC on which these are based support not only Bluetooth 5.4 but also Thread, Zigbee, and 802.15.4. These three standards are becoming commonplace in the home automation space. Has any thought been given to how the new Pebble devices could utilize these protocols? [1] https://www.nordicsemi.com/Products/nRF52840

Nope, but the OS is open source so you could try getting it to work yourself: https://github.com/pebble-dev/pebble-firmware

> Proprietary source code has been removed from this repository and it will not compile as-is. This is for information only

How are you supposed to do that?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by krick »

erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

I think I am not exactly the intended audience for these devices right now, so my comment will be a bit general. I don't want "a geeky alternative to apple watch" (or an apple watch, for that matter), I basically want Garmin Forerunner 955 alternative that won't keep my data hostage. There are many things I hate about Garmin watches (which I buy nevertheless), but I can forgive almost all of them except that one. I want my data to be bulk-exportable via open API, and not it some raw .fit format (because they have to comply with GDPR after all), but as a first-class feature, that tries to satisfy a customer by exporting any data it produces in any (realistic) format that customer wants. (I assume you are familiar with other wearables, since this is your domain, but just in case: GDPR forces them to make the data they record directly exportable, but they won't willingly do it for anything that is "processed data", so I can backup my HR history, but not the data they use to make these "sleep phases" graphs, and I can only manually export relatively useless .csv summaries for a given date.)

In short, I really want to stop giving my money to Garmin. But I don't want to compromise on quality of the data being recorded. What are your thoughts on that market?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by margalabargala »

apparent wrote: post #327
margalabargala wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very much agree. I want to go take this on a hike in the wilderness. I want a compass and a heart rate monitor. Barometer would be nice but I could take or leave.

This would be nice, but for me I'd never go hiking without my iPhone (especially since they now have satellite-based messaging). I assume there was a tradeoff here, and even if it was just a bit more battery I probably would have to agree with ditching these bits.

That's a fair point. My phone has a compass, so I can always look at a compass there. Not having it on the watch is just an inconvenience. My phone isn't a heart monitor.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by vetrom »

I miss having pebble watches, they hit a sweet spot of lifetime vs functionality. That said, what is this team going to do to avoid crashing and burning the way the original pebble did?

Specifically I refer to the debacle around the pebble 2 variants and the 1st round pebble core that totally got the ball dropped on it.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by silverliver »

Open source and hackable makes this a dream watch replacement for my old watch. Hopefully these new watches see great success, so much so that they motivates competition that is willing to sale in stores so that I can buy one.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by kubatyszko »

jerlam wrote: post #223
kubatyszko wrote: post #197

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I remember that my Pebble 2 (HR) over time (pun intended) would develop play around the rubber button area especially on the right side. Eventually the rubber covering the buttons would break off. This was common to the point people were making 3d-printed replacement parts. See https://help.rebble.io/pebble-2-buttons/ What's the expected longevity of the buttons this time around, and will you have replacement parts a…

The post says: More reliable buttons (up to 30% longer lifetime in testing)

doh, should have read the full post ;)
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