20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

Post by infecto » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 1:50 AM UTC

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Aren't Twitter workers still trying to get their severances and they took the offer when Twitter actually had the money to pay. Considering that SpaceX is so far behind on its bills that dozens and dozens of companies in Texas have had to place liens against the company, my guess is that neither the Twitter people, nor the SpaceX people, nor the federal buyout people will ever see a dime. For some reason, links to st…

I am complete outsider and know nothing about this so I am sorry to ask but in my view this is a shocking proposition. Can anyone corroborate this? EDIT: Specifically the claim that "SpaceX is so far behind on its bills that dozens and dozens of companies in Texas have had to place liens against the company"

Post by spamizbad » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 1:52 AM UTC

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They churn through employees fast and they usually exit through burnout (no offloading) and the people wanting to work there skew towards young people who don't know what they're doing. A lot of work gets delayed, dropped, etc and some bad suppliers even take advantage of that ("the last person said they'd do X"). I know it's en-vogue to hate on Elon companies, and a lot of people would love to hear that the World's…

Yeah, I've always been trying to be objective as possible when it comes to the hate sent towards Tesla, SpaceX, etc from the heat Elon is getting but having lived near Hawthorne, I've met a couple of people who worked at SpaceX and it is insane. I had a really good friend who moved from the midwest with his wife to spacex and she became a favorite at spacex which meant she lived at spacex. He would see her like once…

Post by robocat » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 1:55 AM UTC

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I would not leave. Getting into the federal system was hard before, it's going to be near impossible now. For people who are not AI experts, engineers, doctors, etc. the federal government offers pay and benefits unparalleled to anything those same people would find in the private sector. Not to mention the job protections that really don't exist in any other private sector American company.

I feel like that used to be true, but I'm not sure it's been true for the last ~decade or so. My mom works for the federal government as an attorney. She likes her job, but she has mentioned to me that there are just as many layoff rounds, if not more, as you'd get in the private sector. Moreover, there are a lot of things that are kind of bullshit; her office refused to provide paper towels or soap in the kitchen, s…

Post by Retric » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 1:56 AM UTC

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There’s many examples of government shutdowns where workers received back pay even when they didn’t work those hours. So future administrations are likely to retroactively approve payments if it becomes a political issue. Honestly taking the buyout without an act of congress backing it is likely the more risky here unless you where already planning to leave which is likely why most people took it.

That was a different situation because those people continue to be employees. The gov gave them back pay during shutdown because it wants them to continue to work after the shutdown (so services keep being rendered). In this case, Trump/Musk don't want these workers back, so there's no political incentive or pressure to pay them. They can just not do so if it's "not funded by Congress" (usually there's fine print abo…

Post by vaccineai » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 1:59 AM UTC

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20k represents 1%. The target is 5-10%. The messaging is 100-200k federal layoff is coming.