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Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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> So nepotism + networking = bad, but meritocracy also = bad...? The downsides of meritocracy invalidate the almost idolatrous worship of the idea seen in the tech field. Tolstoy wrote “It is principally through this false idea of inequality, and the intoxication of power and of servility resulting from it, that men associated in a state organization are enabled to commit acts opposed to their conscience without the…

Biggest issue with Democrats is learning that "People are born with different abilities." Biggest issue with Republicans is learning that "People are born with different abilities."

Thank you for your analysis. It is both penetrating and diffuse.

Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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The source article includes primary material that strongly contradicts your anecdote. The policy change arrived in 2013, and there are materials from that same year indicating DEI. For example, here's an FAA slide from 2013 which explicitly publishes the ambition to place DEI as the core issue ("- How much of a change in jo performance is acceptable to achieve what diversity goals?"): https://archive.ph/Qgjy5 The evi…

I found one thing odd, which was outside of the scope over the zero sum game being fought here. If you are understaffed, AND you are hiring traditionally, it would make sense that recruiting people would go up. That would mean diverse hires anyway - based on the article, it seems that even increasing diversity was not between undeserving candidates and ideal candidates (the second band section of the article) Is the…

If you are trying to reach race/gender based quotas, you simply cannot hire white men anymore when they are 90% of the applicants. Or at least, you must attempt to minimize it as much as possible. Math.

Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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It's not performative outrage, it's a statement of fact. You didn't merely widen the net, you spearfished candidates of the right race and ignored those of the wrong ones. Regardless of your intentions, how is that not racist?

> Just for clarity, this was for a publicly posted job position, so non-target candidates were able to, and did, put in applications. They were assessed the same way target candidates were. Try again.

> In our case, the recruitment team started by only headhunting target candidates. Once we exhausted that pool, they would headhunt any candidate.

"Target candidate" = those in minority groups, yes?

Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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> Just looking at the Meta article: The article cites "pressure from conservative critics and customers" as the reason, not financial performance. The Meta representative was quoted pointing to "legal and policy landscape" changes. Nothing about if or how the initiative affected the company's bottom line. Of course they won't say it doesn't work. They'll cite external pressure or other reason. But they get pressure f…

If the real reason these companies dropped the policies was that they were unprofitable, and their bottom lines showed it, then why did they wait until exactly November 2024 to all drop them at once? Surely they could have discovered this many quarters ago. Did the policies just suddenly become unprofitable right as the next political administration was decided? Why would company directors across entire industries ju…

They may have feared the negative PR of dropping the policies would be more costly than the policies themselves.

Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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There's a very high amount of political topics lately, and it's very uninteresting to non-US readers. Please stop.

Nobody is forcing you to read this or comment. Go find a local news website if you're so displeased with the US content.

Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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There's a very high amount of political topics lately, and it's very uninteresting to non-US readers. Please stop.

It is a US based website, mostly about US tech companies. You may find it uninteresting but it has large impacts on these companies so would not be out of place here.

Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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Not all people are the same. Their differences make them better suited to some jobs than others. Neurodiversity is a useless reframing of something exceptionally simple.

What's a better word?

Autism...

Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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If I deliberately hire whites more than other races nobody would deny that is discrimination. If I deliberately hire more minorities than whites, that is not discrimination?

If your candidate pool is 80% white and you hire 25% minorities, is that discrimination? I have seen people argue (rabidly!) both ways on that question.

That is not deliberately hiring whites? That is just hiring whites by happenstance. I am talking about choosing the white candidate because he is white.

Re: The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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This is a fascinating read, but the thing that bugs me about this whole affair is that when this came to light many years ago it was treated as a cheating and recruitment scandal. But only recently has it been reframed as a DEI issue. Taking old, resolved scandals - slapping a coat of culture war paint on it - and then selling it as a new scandal is already a popular MO for state-sponsored propoganda, so we should be…

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