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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by grumpy-de-sre »

eru wrote: post #196
Aurornis wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The question is how did we let it go this far? Why has there never been serious Western alternatives to JLCPCB, PCBWay, JLCCNC etc.? Has anyone asked themselves how these Chinese firms are so cheap? It’s not really a secret. They have cheap labor. Very lax environmental standards (big deal for PCB manufacturing). They have a high density of manufacturing and production. One factory can get their materials and machi…

Chinese labour isn't that cheap anymore. Chinese wages are higher than those in Mexico for example.

My impression, having visited the place, is that the Chinese laborers just work ridiculously hard. Part of this is due to culture and very heavy handed management, part of this due to the working class seeing huge returns on their labor (wealth has grown exponentially in their own lifetimes).

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by nosianu »

Animats wrote: post #301

You can still ship stuff from China to the US via FedEx, UPS, or DHL. You just have to do all the standard customs clearance data entry and pay.[1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/04/business/china-us-usps-de...

Maybe not any more? The situation still seems to be developing.

5 Feb 2025: https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/4/22675...

> DHL Hong Kong has announced that it will no longer accept individual shipments directed to the United States.

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> As for UPS Hong Kong, FedEx Hong Kong and SF Express, the companies stated that their headquarters have not informed them to stop accepting parcels from Hong Kong for delivery to the United States.

> However, FedEx Hong Kong's customer service reminded senders that they might need to pay additional duties for the deliveries while the shipping costs remain unchanged.

> UPS mentioned that the company is currently discussing the duties arrangement, but no updates have been announced yet.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

bb88 wrote: post #40

So if you're worried about packages coming from AliExpress, you probably shouldn't be. The last several packages I ordered were shipped USPS with an origin of the US. Los Angeles was the origin of the last one I received with AliExpress Choice(tm). It may affect ebay purchases of electronic parts from Shenzhen though. Particulary if the vendors use the Chinese post office. I also ordered a Keychron keyboard last week…

It's effectively the same price as on Amazon but good luck ever returning that to China. https://amzn.com/dp/B0CSYB8RNC

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #115
reaperman wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm worried more about the prototypes my R&D department is designing in partnership with Chinese contractors and fabrication facilities. We manufacture the final products here in the USA, but a LOT of components we air-mail from China. A huge percentage of the nation's R&D efforts (for DOMESTIC MANUFACTURING) is going to be completely and utterly fucked if they can't rush-deliver niche items from China. This is a dis…

I doubt you were using USPS before for those, so your company shouldn’t be affected unless this affects private shipping companies as well.

That's not the point. The point is the USPS is abusively discriminating against trade for political purposes.

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

soganess wrote: post #128
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt you were using USPS before for those, so your company shouldn’t be affected unless this affects private shipping companies as well.

Honest question, why? USPS is cheap. Is there something special about a stack of blank PCBs (or ICs, or caps, or whatever) that precludes USPS from shipping them? I know they are weird about batteries, but everything else, right?

The point is Jeff Bezos wanted AliExpress shutdown because $$$$.

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Post by throwfgtpwd234 »

thih9 wrote: post #244
tkems wrote: post #10

I can confirm that Aliexpress doesn't allow me to checkout with a USA address and states that items can't be shipped to my region. -edit: Since this post it seems that I can order items again? Very odd.

> it seems that I can order items again? Very odd. Perhaps it’s now being sent not via USPS?

Cainiao (AliExpress's shipment arm) and others will probably end up chartering planes to get customs' cleared packages to the US and then cross-ship them from somewhere in the US like Kentucky or Long Beach. Shipping costs will rise but hopefully not by much.

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Post by antonyt »

inetknght wrote: post #365
Evil_Saint wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the same at all.

That's funny because I've thought it is the same for years and I'm happy to see someone else post a comment about it instead. Perhaps you'd like to elaborate on why you think it's not the same.

These are the extremely obviously different. A company that has to take specific measures to prevent the suicide of their workers should raise a much different level of scrutiny that the fact that a massive bridge available to millions of people is used to commit suicide.

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Post by guerrilla »

qwertox wrote: post #348

EU should do the same. They're essentially performing a Bureaucratic Denial-of-Service attack on customs and tax authorities.

We already have in Sweden, years ago. I thought that was all of the EU. Really fucked up my electronics hobby.

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Post by [deleted] »

Daishiman wrote: post #319
vaccineai wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chinese government only thinks in terms of months, not forever. Why do you think they overbuilt housing and crashed the economy? It's because the government officials want to quickly cash out and escape to other countries.

Building out more high-speed rail interconnections than any other part in the world is a well-known sign of a country that thinks short-term.

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