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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by hackyhacky »

grepfru_it wrote: post #367
hackyhacky wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now you're just gaslighting. There is no "protection" that can prevent a new presidential administration from modifying government websites as they see fit. > I think the answer to that question is more nuanced than we may like to believe What is this, the X Files? Vague allusions like this don't make you look wise, they make you look like you're making stuff up to win internet points.

Ok this is getting a little too...hot for HN so just a heads up I will not reply after this one. You are absolutely right that there is no protection that can prevent administrations from modifying websites, otherwise websites would never get redesigned! However, there is a federal law that requires government agencies to retain records and different agencies have different requirements. I will leave it as an exercis…

As you surely know, the legal requirement to retain records does not extend to a requirement to maintain those records on a public web site. You are not arguing in good faith. Please stop muddying the waters with your buffoonish rhetoric. Thanks.

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Post by mcguire »

sega_sai wrote: post #69

An "interesting" consequence of these type of measures of stopping collecting or publishing data will be that soon it will be impossible to tell how much infant mortality, or number of cases of tuberculosis or similar changed with respect to last year. Maybe that is partially the goal.

See maternal mortality in Texas.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/12/06/texas-maternal-morta...

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by cs702 »

W.T.F.!?

Let us hope this is just a temporary thing.

Let us hope the disappearing data will resurface again at some point.

Let us hope this isn't driven by ideological motivations.

Sigh.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by peterfirefly »

wbl wrote: post #213
somename9 wrote: post #206

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David de Rothschild. The family has lent money to governments and royalty for centuries. You’re not going to find his accurate net worth on Forbes. Also, any king or dictator effectively owns their nation’s entire treasury, including all real estate. Maduro, for example, is wealthier than Musk.

Our king has to moonlight as a airline pilot.

Our queen emerita is a part-time painter.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Post by cheema33 »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #147
duxup wrote: post #37

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As far as things like ending EV tax credits musk noted it would hurt his competitors more than him. It’s all obvious corruption.

EV tax credits under the previous administration applied to almost every EV that wasn't a Tesla. They got Tesla its start, though, so the ladder must be pulled up. Of course, carbon offsets are still a huge cash cow for Tesla, so Musk won't be eager to touch those.

> EV tax credits under the previous administration applied to almost every EV that wasn't a Tesla.

Your statement might give somebody the impression that somebody in the previous administration singled out Tesla. This is obviously not correct. EV credits were available to all car makers. But there was a limit and Tesla reached their limit first. And later GM did as well.

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Post by MrJohz »

roenxi wrote: post #319
mcmcmc wrote: post #303

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Having two parties with opposing biases and incentives doesn’t magically cancel out and become impartial. That’s the opposite of impartiality.

Although true, it isn't a very useful observation. "How do I find someone impartial to this matter?" is one of the great unsolved questions that the lawyers have to deal with. Up there with "what is true?". If anything that is one of the big promises of AI systems. Maybe we can have adjudication that is both extremely intelligent and provably biased towards consistency, facts and evidence. SHA256sum-ed and torrented…

> Although true, it isn't a very useful observation. "How do I find someone impartial to this matter?" is one of the great unsolved questions that the lawyers have to deal with. Up there with "what is true?".

Although true, this isn't a particularly useful observation either. It turns out we can define "true" very well for a lot of really useful stuff. We know the sky is blue. We know the sun rises. We know that two plus two equals four. And we know that anthropogenic climate change is a real thing that exists and is likely to have a large impact on our world.

There are some things that we're less confident about, such as different projections for exactly how large an impact we're likely to experience, what the most efficient way to limit that impact is, who bears the responsibility for implementing those changes, and so on. Reasonable people can quibble over some of those details, and there are multiple valid ways of interpreting those facts. But we can very definitely - and completely objectively - fact check statements like "anthropogenic climate change does not exist" and "fossil fuels do not have an impact on our climate and environment".

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Facemelters wrote: post #332
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #322

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> Trump just pardoned the violent attackers of Jan6 He let violent criminals out of jail. Unsurprisingly, they’re going on to commit crime. It’s wild how similarly the far left and right act when they’re given power; in an alternate universe, Chesa Boudin is pardoning them because abolish prisons or whatever.

crime went up after they removed chesa, mr. fact check

> crime went up after they removed chesa

Crime is too macro for an individual DA to have an effect. Chesa wasn't responsible for any increase or decrease, during his time nor after. Same for Trump's J6ers. They're not going to move the needle. Instead, mine is a micro argument: there are specific, preventable crimes one can trace to each of their actions. And those actions are remarkably similar in practical effect once you wipe away the dressing.

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Post by jazzyjackson »

liontwist wrote: post #95
nehal3m wrote: post #83

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Whether or not you’ve been duly elected has nothing to do with whether or not you behave like a fascist afterwards. Most fascists were elected.

Indeed 20th century fascist revolutions used the guise of law for their takeover. Following them would include banning the existence of other parties, changing the constitution to give all power to executive, cancelling elections, etc. I assumed the poster was using facist to mean “bad authoritarian government” - not that trump is actually a disciple of Mussolini style philosophy. Right now the democratic system is w…

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