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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by _yb2s »

llamaimperative wrote: post #337
mulmen wrote: post #214

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Sounds like bad leadership on the part of your project. To outsiders that don’t understand the details why fire people before the actual budget cuts?

Here’s another example: would you start building a house today knowing the price of every input material might jump 20% to 200%?

It's even worse than that: it's more like buying unrefundable materials to build a house today on an account/invoice, knowing you will likely be unemployed before the bill comes due, but after the materials are delivered. You're spending money up front that you don't have, and may never have.

If you spend full budget for the first half of the fiscal year, but a final budget gets passed later that cuts your budget in half- you get no remaining money for the year, and then end up firing everyone, instead of half. This is why the federal agencies have the policy of immediately acting on the lowest proposed budget, instead of waiting to see what happens.

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mandmandam wrote: post #329
khazhoux wrote: post #226

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Everyone who chose not to vote effectively removed themselves from the set of people to be counted as either supporting or not supporting this administration.

That's not actually how 'support' works, especially when 'the' alternative was committed to arming a genocidal apartheid regime against the will of their own voters. Many. many people can no longer stomach to 'hold their noses' and vote in favor of open atrocity. There's a whole lot of people who strongly disdain both parties, on that basis and others. They are not remotely proportionally represented by either govern…

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

aliasxneo wrote: post #261
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #244

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Some yes, but maybe not you? Because you used the following language yesterday: "Only a few short months ago, I was under constant attack from various public members of the Democratic party for being a white male with center-right views. The vitriol was quite unhinged, really." when asked for specifics you went to '...on CNN for example'.

Do I engage in politics on HN occasionally? Yes. Is it my primary motivation? No. I don't open up HN with the intention of having rigorous political discussions, even though I sometimes fall into them. My comment history, which it seems you only partially perused, demonstrates this to be true. Especially if you go back a year ago before things became politically charged around here. I also don't see what relevance my…

I haven't used party labels on HN. You seem to be the one forcing an identity on me? I would respond but my post was out of bounds so I shouldn't elaborate/reference further.

FYI if you read my post history you will see I am a libertarian leaning (Santa Cruz hippie libertarian not Rand Paul 'my dad got me the job but I believe in everyone earning their way' libertarian) refugee from the Bay Area to a small town in a very red state. I don't have the agenda you think other than calling out hypocrisy and a desire for a functioning health system.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by mrguyorama »

hinkley wrote: post #279
SecretDreams wrote: post #200

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Hopefully we can course correct before we have to relearn lessons from the 1800s.

Maybe if we learned about the 1800’s in school things would be going better now.

We did learn about the 1800's in school but apparently some of you did not pay attention.

There will always be some small percentage of your society that refuses to accept what is taught in school. The US has it bad because we've had multiple "Great Awakenings" that resulted in literal cults that grew to national size (mormonism, Church of Christ scientist, Jehova's Witnesses, thousands of various "Evangelical" fundamentalist sects) that all take as a foundational belief that the entirety of modern science is a massive cover-up to prevent people from knowing about god. They explicitly believe that scientists are Evil, and in league with Satan to keep them from god.

Fully ten percent of the American public for the past 50 years, or 30 million people believe "God created human beings in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years"

Those people have always been good at organizing and have groups that are extremely motivated because they genuinely believe they are fighting a holy war against Satan. They have driven American policy for centuries, from the religious portion of the southern states insisting that god wanted black people to be slaves, to the Christians being a large portion of the temperance movement that resulted in Prohibition, to the current Book bans, to driving a significant amount of the political pressure causing Visa and Mastercard to threaten to ban pornhub (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Expl...).

A huge percentage of flat earth believers for example are there because it is the logical endpoint of "you cannot trust any scientist because they are all in league to drive you away from god's light"

If 10% doesn't scare you, consider that the same insanity around a man named Kellog insisting in "purity of spirit", as in the religious meaning, is why 90% of White men in the US are circumcised. That rate is only comparable in Israel and nations with Islamic laws.

America struggles because of religion, specifically a breed of religion that insists you cannot trust any institution but it. Note how hostile the current admin was to a Preacher preaching peace.

Their preferred religion does not preach peace.

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Post by mrguyorama »

tim333 wrote: post #380
CHB0403085482 wrote: post #254

To me, TB is ultimate test of character. Stopping TB means you care for your common man: https://youtu.be/GFLb5h2O2Ww?t=75

I was shocked that that said 2bn people carry TB, though it seems from recent research the number is much lower https://www.iavi.org/iavi-report/upending-the-dogma-of-tb-la... I'm surprised people put up with it when there's a vaccine.

Nobody "puts up" with TB.

Poor countries and communities cannot afford the options on the market. TB wont be solved until we put people before profit.

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Post by mrguyorama »

pksebben wrote: post #49
hammock wrote: post #31

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It is. It’s called a protest vote, and it’s done by casting a blank ballot

...which does just about as much as voting (that is, precious little). If we're ever going to claw ourselves out of this (or any) mess, we need ranked choice or something like it. The giant douche / turd sandwich dichotomy needs to end, for everyone on any side of the political spectrum.

If you want to change the way voting works in the US (and oh boy do I), you first must win an election in the current system to gain enough power to do that.

So many american leftists just seem to ignore that and it makes things very difficult.

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Post by jjk166 »

exe34 wrote: post #362
mhandley wrote: post #51

Not being from the US, I find it odd that the article didn't mention anything about vaccination. Until 2005, pretty much everyone in the UK received the BCG vaccine. After that the TB rate fell too low to merit routine vaccination, but even today it's still given routinely in a few areas where the rate merits it, or if there's elevated risk of exposure via family from abroad, etc. Has vaccination in general become su…

natural selection also applies to memes. memes that cause their host to fail to raise children to reproductive age will get weeded out, but it can take many generations.

Memes don't need to be passed on hereditarily. It is entirely possible for a meme which absolutely prevents the host from reproducing to persist indefinitely so long as it spreads to new hosts at around the same rate hosts die out. See clerical celibacy. It is also possible for memes to lie dormant and then resurge after an extended period of time by which all the original hosts are dead.

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Post by dmix »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #307
dmix wrote: post #270

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That’s a wholly unambitious worldview Online communities need constant self checking and introspection to not go off the deepend. This isn’t like Reddit where you can unsubscribe from the crazy big politics subreddits or unfollow people on Twitter. I still think the old ideal of HN where we have some higher goal than yet another US political rant forum is still worth fighting for. > I couldn't care less beyond seeing…

This is HN and I'm sure there are all kinds of filters people have made as add-ons if news like this truly bothers you. Users here are more than likely to make their own as well. You can also always reach out to Dang for feature requests. I'm never going to not want more flexibility in my newsfeed. >. 66 people almost entirely in 2 counties isn’t exactly a national statistics collection issue Patient zero starts some…

Meh I don’t need 3rd party plugins, I spent years using them on HN and my iPhone doesn’t have browser plugins.

I don’t care enough anyway I just use HN less and less every year like all the old userbase. The only old usernames I recognize at the top of threads these days are the ones who like the politics stuff (I could list at least 4-5). Just my own nostalgia for a dying small community of thoughtful nerds.

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Post by Dalewyn »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #371
Dalewyn wrote: post #296

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I saw that, and that wasn't a "Nazi salute". Any and all publications and pundits/influencers declaring it as such are wholly disingenuous and should be ashamed of themselves. The sensationalizing was a textbook example of taking things out of context and projecting your(the Left's) own biases. If you can't understand that, let me put it in simpler terms: That was a "My heart goes out to you!" salute and I am happy f…

What he did was identical to a classic nazi sieg heil, right down the forcefulness. https://imgur.com/UFrmbJs Let's not forget when the convention stage was exactly (not almost) an odal rune. https://auschwitz.info/en/welcome/announcements/artikel/lese... “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” ― George Orwell, 1984 One thing you could do to see w…

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Post by dragonwriter »

Dalewyn wrote: post #389
CyberDildonics wrote: post #371

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What he did was identical to a classic nazi sieg heil, right down the forcefulness. https://imgur.com/UFrmbJs Let's not forget when the convention stage was exactly (not almost) an odal rune. https://auschwitz.info/en/welcome/announcements/artikel/lese... “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” ― George Orwell, 1984 One thing you could do to see w…

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