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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Link or didn’t happen, comrade. I’ll save you time: you won’t find one.

Are you asking for proof of you being a shill right after you accused me of being a shill? Where was your proof? Have you no capability of reasoning?

You're getting too aggressive here :/, it sounds like GP is against the genocide too, y'all are on the same side

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Who cares what political stunts the US is currently going through? Except for the ~4% of the world who happens to live there, the rest of us tend to choose tools based on either what others around us use, or what we've found to work best for us. If that happens to be an editor from China instead of US, I don't know what difference that would make? Both governments in those countries are crazy about spying on both the…

then you should install everything that comes out of China, Russia, North Korea, Iran

I mean, I have some stuff from China, some of the stuff from there is cheap and high quality, so why wouldn't I? I don't know of many consumer products from Russia, North Korea or Iran. I'm sure if there was something from those countries that I really wanted, I'd buy it.

Edit: Actually I do have a product that is kind of Russian, Flipper Zero. I'm don't remember if I bought it before they moved the company to the US though, or while it was based in Russia.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

Use an aggregator like nano-gpt.com. You get access to all the top models (including o1 pro which usually requires a $200/month subscription) on a pay per use rate. Short on cash ? Use deepseek models for .1cents.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

Some AI IDE allow you to use local models. If compute getting cheaper this will become a norm

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Reminds me of JetBrains AI, I think I'll stick to JetBrains solution for the time being. I'm not super crazy on AI coding solutions, but the JetBrains flavor hits a sweet spot for me, built-in and does what I usually need it to do.

Has it gotten better? I tried it out early and it was unusable

It is definitely quirky, but I am able to use it mainly to scaffold things, and to ask it to refactor things. I only use it for personal projects so far where its no biggie if it doesn't work out, or to ask it about stack traces.

I've also blankly asked it if there's any issues with the current code, and found errors before I try to build / run a project.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Who would ever allow this in their organisation after the tiktok shutdown, just go for one of the other 17 ai IDE forks

TikTok was shut down because of clueless bureaucrats and political games, not because of any specific threat. If there was a real risk posed by China why are they idly allowing millions of people to migrate to Xiaohongshu, which is even more strongly controlled by China?

TikTok ban plan may actually snowball, because now China thinking about their soft power and opening their internet to the world. The 16th Shanghai Municipal People's Congress actually talked about this.

They have a lot of companies with very large consumer, and their market is saturated already. Time to expand to the rest of the world.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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I gave Claude 3.5 Sonnet your prompt and it generated this: https://claude.site/artifacts/7aa41881-937e-4863-a407-c999ea... With this example usage: -- Example usage: let clause1 = Set.fromList [1, 2] -- represents (x1 ∨ x2) let clause2 = Set.fromList [-1, 3] -- represents (¬x1 ∨ x3) let formula = Set.fromList [clause1, clause2] -- Decompose the formula let (nonBlocked, blocked) = decompose formula How did it do?

This is very good. Did it do just from the prompt or you had to nudge it? Can you share full chat history?

No nudging. This was the whole interaction: https://gist.github.com/jcheng5/c6f15f4c3dc31bf15ab44683ad6a...

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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It's safer to not ingest any poison. You don't extinguish fire with gasoline because kerosene might be worse. You don't eat rat poison because fentanyl would be worse. It's a false dichotomy.

It's not a false dichotomy - the entire analogy to poison makes no sense, because US or China spying on people's activity on-line is currently a complete nothingburger. If anything, adtech is actually doing real harm to people this way, but that harm is still relatively small and indirect, which is why most people don't care .

> There's no way I am using a Chinese IDE with VSCode (w/ Coppilot) and Cursor existing after reading the privacy issues in the court documents with TikTok.

I have to say, on second reading, you are right because I basically overlooked that Copilot implies having no problem with being spied on by US corporations. That honestly escaped me.

But since you brought it up, for me mass surveillance and other abuses are simply a human rights issue more than anything. People can chose to not uphold theirs, or we can feel like we "have no other choice", but that doesn't change the human rights abuse, essentially. And we have no clue what the long term pay-off for everything being enmeshed into surveillance of every single data point, no matter how trivial in isolation it might be. And "I don't care about privacy, so let's not have privacy anymore, so nobody ever born will have privacy again" is not a decision anyone has the right to make, to put a point on it.

We all kinda ended up here, and I know it's not so easy, but that we don't have "fixed" it doesn't mean it's not broken, and it staying broken for a long time doesn't normalize it in my books. That people don't care is what raising awareness is for, after all.

And when people like Larry Ellison talk about everybody being on good behaviour because the AI will be always watching (to help everybody and make a great society, of course, because nothing could go wrong), basically, I think adtech isn't the only danger, and the effect of that would also not be "small and indirect". But it also underlines your point about what's the more direct threat to a US citizen.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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To me USA and China are both foreign nations, and USA is the one who is far more aggressive in terms of army and spies. So as a non USA citizen, I'm way more afraid of USA than I am of China.

If you woke up tomorrow in either USA or China, which would you prefer to wake up in and why?

Classic false dilemma[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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This is very good. Did it do just from the prompt or you had to nudge it? Can you share full chat history?

No nudging. This was the whole interaction: https://gist.github.com/jcheng5/c6f15f4c3dc31bf15ab44683ad6a...

This is a gist, not an interaction with Claude AI.

Can you share actual interaction on their site?

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