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Post by russli1993 »

monero-xmr wrote: post #82
meyum33 wrote: post #16

I clicked open the link to find Yahoo has gone dark in China since 2021. Doesn’t work even with a VPN. I miss the good old days of the Web.

The cognitive dissonance is stunning. China is a closed system, corrupt, opaque, and doing business there risks being murdered if you don’t grease the right palms. Or if you greased the right palms today, but in 5 years you bribed someone who’s out of favor, could get death. Chinese business crying foul over simply forcing an app to change owners is the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

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Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by chvid »

daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

Biden could have cut a deal with TikTok instead of this. That would have left the US with a least one major social media not in the pocket of Trump.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by nvarsj »

MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #317
picafrost wrote: post #315

It’s always uncomfortable when realpolitik clashes with the values we aspire to have. What is freedom, anyway? Surely it can’t include allowing a foreign adversary access to a knob to twist on an important demographic of society. A foreign adversary who is actively compromising the network infrastructure of that society [1] but definitely wouldn’t touch infrastructure around an app owned by a Chinese company. There’s…

that's a slippery slope. The Russian government is also justifying all of its censorship with foreign interference (this line of argument works with the Russian public, just to note), take care!

Indeed. It's the road to open government censorship. There is no grey area when it comes to freedom of speech.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by chvid »

elfbargpt wrote: post #260
daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

I have a feeling the ban is likely the result of "special interest" groups as opposed to a "classified briefing"

A special interest group called Meta.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by Vegenoid »

AirMax98 wrote: post #98

It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

Do people believe that the US government's control over Instagram/Twitter/whatever are similar to the level of control China's government has over TikTok?

I'm not that educated on the subject (I think most people who are making claims either way about this aren't), but all my priors indicate to me that China's government collects data from and controls content (to be shown only to the western populace) in TikTok much more than the US government with US social media companies.

I understand the comparison, but I think the magnitude of the problem is very likely to be much higher with TikTok.

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Post by bilekas »

daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

This is bizarre.. Maybe I'm wrong but is a president even allowed just unilaterally decide to revoke a law ?

Maybe the US should just create some privacy protections instead ?

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

t-3 wrote: post #370
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean, Romania?

That one appears to be an own-goal by an opposing party: https://www.politico.eu/article/investigation-ties-romanian-...

Interesting, so that doesn't have to be CCP to wield influence over TikTok, anyone can pay to a marketing firm to promote whatever they want.

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Post by llamaboy »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #250
AirMax98 wrote: post #98

It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

It's an app. Some money could possibly be made by some people legitimately. The bleakest part is people who didn't recognize how extreme a gamble it is if that's what somebody wants to pin their entire livelihood on. Whether they wrote the app or not. The "house" just drew the winning hand, and all the gamblers lost everything they had on the table at once. That can happen at any time, and almost always happens event…

You’re obviously not involved in the content creation world. My partners main income source is selling a product via Instagram. While she puts a lot of effort into building her brand on other platforms to diversify as she recognises the risk, once you have an established and profitable audience on one platform you’d be silly not to continue to put effort into growing that. Also what works on one platform is different to the others, it’s not a simple copy and paste. People generally are aware of this and try to diversify, but it’s not as easy as you might think.

Posts that get 5m+ views on one platform may only get 5000 on another.

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Post by imgabe »

reedf1 wrote: post #296
firefoxd wrote: post #294

This morning I felt the urge to download TikTok for the first time. I did, but I didn't bother creating an account. There is a passage in the book Life of Pi, where Pi's family is gathered and ready to leave India for Canada. And his mother does something out of the ordinary: > The day before our departure she pointed at a cigarette wallah and earnestly asked, "Should we get a pack or two?" > Father replied, "They ha…

Make no mistake - it conforms to manufactured consent.

The only difference is the manufacturer. But this is an important difference.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by [deleted] »

daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

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