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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by ipaddr »

collingreen wrote: post #371
ipaddr wrote: post #368

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You oppose moving away for inflammatory seed oil that is known to cause cancer? You oppose removing incentives that have drug companies writing health policy? People with gilbert's syndrome are happy to remove fluoride from the drinking water. Educate yourself before someone else does and sells you short. Fluoride can damage the liver in a number of ways, including: Liver function enzymes: Fluoride can increase the a…

Is this chatgpt copypasta at the end? Regardless, this kind of straw man argument isn't very convincing. You can be against someone's stated policies while holding either supporting or opposing views on any particular topic; implying otherwise is baffling since it would require someone to PERFECTLY align with every opinion you have. Thinking RFK will be a good or bad leader has nothing to do with if someone opposes "…

Seed oil removal is part of his agenda. If you like that idea things may be better than what the media is selling you. The dead bear is part of an entertaining story. At most you could say he initially didn't to waste the meat but lost track of time hunting birds then had to meet someone for dinner in New York before boarding a flight an hour later. He creately solved the issue.

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Post by 9dev »

ETH_start wrote: post #349
notyourwork wrote: post #117

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Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

A certain faction always think the rule on keeping politics out of forums doesn't apply to them, because their politics are too correct and important. I experience this problem in groupchats where the very people who furiously demanded people not bring politics into the group and to make the group politics-free routinely push their own politics. They say their politics are too important to not bring up. These same pe…

There is no leaving out politics. Everything is political.

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Post by valval »

collingreen wrote: post #370
Alupis wrote: post #294

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It wouldn't be of it was not just different variations of "Hitler Hitler Hitler, Russia Russia Russia!" We've been hearing how doomed democracy is for the better part of 10 years now. It's really old...

Wait, when you see someone say "department of government efficiency" and mention corruption you hear "hitler hitler hitler"? Maybe you're just really tired of hearing any criticism of blatant corruption and I'm sorry you're feeling that way. I bet that feels really discouraging and tedious and adversarial. To me this comment reads as a callout of corruption, not fascism. The hitler criticisms you mentioned, in my exp…

Ah great, he doubles down on it. Good stuff.

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Post by 9dev »

Recurecur wrote: post #312
zzzeek wrote: post #164

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Um, the DOGE is rather a necessity about now. The USA is ~$36 TRILLION in debt. Interest payments are now consuming ~20% of tax revenue...more than the defense budget. That's insane! Musk is also absolutely correct about over-regulation and government bureaucracy stifling innovation and economic growth. Then there's the amazing incompetence often displayed by the current admin... Witness Afghanistan, among many other…

Ever heard of Chestertons fence? Coming into a government for over 300 million people without the faintest clue how it works, removing stuff that doesn’t look too useful is the worst possible strategy to improve efficiency. You don’t renovate with a wrecking ball.

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Post by valval »

namaria wrote: post #222
notyourwork wrote: post #117

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Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

It sucks for everyone. What you want us to do? Pretend it ain't so?

It doesn’t suck for the majority of people in the country. For them, it’s what they’d love to see.

Funnily enough, comments like yours are also what they’d love to see. Seeing leftists in tears over the policy changes we’re going to see is a great form of entertainment for many people.

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Post by 9dev »

EasyMark wrote: post #376
atoav wrote: post #94

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He had been "joking" about a third term already: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/us/politics/congress-reso... So let's see if a Trump with total immunity will really leave gracefully this time.

A president can't pardon himself. He can still be held responsible for this crimes that he's already done. they'll just be shelved for a time. With any justice we'll come back to his crimes after this presidency proves to be a complete failure. I personally don't believe that Americans will allow anyone to become dictator.

Well, they have certainly allowed a convicted felon to become president, so I’m not as convinced of their ability to defend themselves. Any Netflix showrunner designing Trump as a character would have been called of for such a flat caricature of a narcissistic villain, but somehow people thought that would be a good leader.

Even if Trump does not ruin the USA, I have forever lost my respect for its citizens.

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Post by valval »

sangnoir wrote: post #357
tim333 wrote: post #243

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Musk seems quite well meaning. Neuralink, the early Starlink donated to Ukraine, trying to move the world to Solar/electric etc. Trump... dunno.

> trying to move the world to Solar/electric etc. Is he, really? He recently announced that he supports Trump's position of getting rid on EV subsidies, stating that it hurts Tesla's competition more.

I love the argument you’re making. If you’re against socialist policies, it serves as indication you don’t like the things I find good.

Please don’t ask me to fund anyone else’s EV purchase. It doesn’t matter to me one bit who’s in office to get rid of that evil policy, I’d still love it.

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Post by thebruce87m »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #5
legitster wrote: post #3

In a big picture, this makes sense. You can load the cars with safety features, but it doesn't change the fact that these cars are very heavy, very fast, and loaded with features that reward distracted driving. In the US at least, the top killer of drivers are trees on the side of the road.

In a bigger picture, cars are a bad solution to the problem of transportation at scale, and really always have been. As safety features go up, complacency goes up, and to be blunt that's combining with the fact that drivers are getting consistently worse overall at the skill anyway. Between EV's that are much, much heavier than ICE cars and SUVs/Trucks that are much larger than they need to be, vehicles themselves, d…

> much, much heavier

https://thedriven.io/2024/05/03/are-evs-really-much-heavier-...

> full electric versions are only around 10% to 15% heavier than their direct ICE equivalent

I don’t think “much, much” should be used when we are talking 10-15%. This will mislead people. There are outliers of course.

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Post by valval »

roughly wrote: post #109
ryandvm wrote: post #24

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Not even remotely farce. I hope the rest of the world is taking notes...

Nobody needs to take notes, we’ve known what this is for a hundred years. We spent most of the last century trying to get rid of autocracy in various places, there’s entire libraries worth of books detailing this playbook at this point.

The good old autocracy that tries to get rid of autocratic policies and institutions. You can’t make this up.

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Post by aziaziazi »

buffington wrote: post #316
aziaziazi wrote: post #233

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I get it but Climate and Music can wait right? It’s a vehicle not an entertainment room. And adjusting mirors while driving seems crazy and dangerous!! changing something that supposed to be set before departure? At least that’s what taught at driving school and written in texts I guess… too sad the distraction factory is so dangerous. I wouldn’t drive that.

The mirror's angle can change, while driving, in such a way that pulling over to stop and fix it isn't the safest option. With dedicated tactile controls you can adjust mirrors without taking your eyes off the road, while also verifying that the mirrors are adjusted correctly. I think the number of people who can say that they have never needed to adjust mirrors while moving, even after having spent a few minutes adj…

> you can adjust mirrors without taking your eyes off the road

Now I imagine one eye looking at the road, the other one doing active strabismus to check the mirror, one hand on the wheel and the other using muscle memory to operate the settings on a flat surface.

> The mirror's angle can change, while driving

Maybe a loose screw somewhere in the mirror or a manufacturing defect? It would be surprising QA and legal security standards don’t require mirrors to stay in the position set for a reasonable mileage…

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