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Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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I don't follow. Is he anti music or something? Afaik he's on Apple, Amazon, and Youtube as well. Do you not use anything related to him? I'm honestly curious for some reason.

Personally, I don't like the idea of my money supporting people who oppose vaccination, among other things.

Exactly

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Why do you get Spotify links sent to you often?

Probably because his friends use it.

I know what services my friends use and make sure to send them the appropriate link whenever I suggest music

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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I don't follow. Is he anti music or something? Afaik he's on Apple, Amazon, and Youtube as well. Do you not use anything related to him? I'm honestly curious for some reason.

Some people are intolerant and think that "they allow someone who I disagree with" is grounds to stop doing business with a service. It's a toxic attitude, but sadly common.

Spotify was paying someone who disseminated anti-vaccine misinformation. I consider that dangerous and will not support it with my money.

Being principled is not toxic.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Probably because his friends use it.

I know what services my friends use and make sure to send them the appropriate link whenever I suggest music

I do, too, but not everyone does that, and many people, say, on Discord, just link to Spotify.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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> People are crazy for vinyl, but CDs are just _so_ convenient. I feel like I might be punished for stepping out of line here but CDs sound better than vinyl too.

This should be objectively true, but the limitations on vinyl prevent some of the abuses in the production processes (the loudness wars). Often vinyl is better anyway just because the engineers had to go back to make a good mix (mostly this is mastering not mixing) for vinyl - if the vinyl mix had been put on CD the CD would be objectively better. Vinyl does theoretically have a better s/n ratio, but you can only see…

I don't think the S/N ratio of vinyl approaches that of CDs. If you give vinyl a perfect literally flawless $10 million dollar setup and freshly carve a new disc from a fresh press plate and play it, even though analog has no reasonable bounds on how loud it can get from a physics perspective, there are dozens of things that in reality will get introduce noise into the system that are not present in CD Audio.

It will likely sound at least just as good as a similarly treated CD, but I doubt that it will approach the S/N ratio of a properly mastered CD.

CD has by default a perfect 0 noise floor, whereas vinyl will never have that, and typically has a pretty high noise floor, meaning that even a good vinyl press will never have the same noise floor as the same recording placed on CD.

I said all of that to say, to me vinyl is appreciable for its flaws compared to CD. Vinyl is mastered to a different spec than CDs are (when its done properly), and it can sometimes add to the experience because the mastering and pressing process focuses on different frequencies.

Aside from that, the fact that each time you listen to a vinyl record it changes in subtle ways, bits of dust get moved around, atomic scratches get worn into the surface, meaning that every listen is completely unique, ever so slightly different than any other time that album or any other similar pressing has been played.

That is one of the thoughts I enjoy when listening to vinyl that makes it likeable, a little more special to me when it crosses my mind.

Digital is almost always the same. Analog is always different.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Cool, I didn’t know that. I wish it were actually used by the various music apps.

It's a pity that compression is likely to provide subtly different data under different network conditions. If everything were lossless we could just use hashes as identifiers and proceed without the participation of the apps. After all, they have no incentive to make this easy for us.

This is actually a beautiful idea. It'd definitely be possible for music purchased through bandcamp since lossless is generally available for most releases. Commenting to bookmark this.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

#390

Now that the app algorithms are horrible can we all go back to something like last.fm so I can discover new music?

last.fm is still there and you can still use it to discover new music!

As soon as they add Youtube music I'm in. I no longer give my money to Spotify.
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