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On Android you can also tell the way the list scrolls. Especially on devices, 2-3 years older.
If you're referring to the increased scroll speed with two fingers issue, that was patched within the last year.
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Only on HN do I hear anyone talking about platform native controls versus unified UI across devices. I have not once heard of such a complaint in the real world and indeed, I have more often heard users wanting a unified UI over one that changes with each platform, simply because these days we have multiple devices where we expect apps to work the same.
You have to listen to the details, like "where is the back button", "Why does text work differently". There are some people that understand that it is different from the standard, but most just get annoyed. The discussion here is from a technical perspective why it is better, conformity of the app on different platforms vs standard behavior between different apps. There are very few people that care about the technic…
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I'm really curious what the specific tells are. Do you have any specific examples? When using the apps on my iPhone, I just don't see how I could tell the difference.
For React Native it’s common for navigation to be weird compared to UIKit/SwiftUI apps. Also common for things like padding/margins to be off since standard layout facilities aren’t being used, and devs of RN apps will often visually customize controls (web style) that native devs don’t. For Flutter, the most visually obvious thing (aside from usually using Material Design) is that its animation curves are all totall…
Disclaimer: used to work on some of these animations
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#384> We describe Flock as "Flutter+". In other words, we do not want, or intend, to fork the Flutter community. Flock will remain constantly up to date with Flutter. That was the first fear when I saw the title - splitting community and having two incompatible versions. Good to see it addressed in the post. The second was just a fear of how it would complicate the development process, but it seems to be a drop-in replac…
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Flutter web publicly launched with a NYT prototype https://verygood.ventures/success-stories/new-york-times
I recognize that as the NYT Games (formerly NYT Crossword) app. It has some very annoying non-native behavior, like bringing up the text selection/highlight menu in inappropriate places (in a word puzzle with no selectable text).
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The main Flutter GitHub repo does have infrastructure to run PR against all Google internal tests (which as you say, does find real bugs). https://imgur.com/a/Ih2oQIS disclaimer: my team runs said infrastructure
Does that automatically run against every PR? What mitigations did you have to put in place for Google security to allow running untrusted code from PRs on internal CI?
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I recognize that as the NYT Games (formerly NYT Crossword) app. It has some very annoying non-native behavior, like bringing up the text selection/highlight menu in inappropriate places (in a word puzzle with no selectable text).
Or the non-native keyboard ... honestly made me stop using it altogether
I've solved thousands of daily crossword puzzles in that app.
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#388> How large is the Flutter team, today? Google doesn't publish this information, but my guess is that the team is about 50 people strong. > That's 50 people serving the needs of 1,000,000. Doing a little bit of division, that means that every single member of the Flutter team is responsible for the needs of 20,000 Flutter developers! That ratio is clearly unworkable for any semblance of customer support. This is a we…
Python started in 1989, it's older than Linux and it has a more narrow scope.
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#389> How large is the Flutter team, today? Google doesn't publish this information, but my guess is that the team is about 50 people strong. > That's 50 people serving the needs of 1,000,000. Doing a little bit of division, that means that every single member of the Flutter team is responsible for the needs of 20,000 Flutter developers! That ratio is clearly unworkable for any semblance of customer support. This is a we…
Python is an engine, flutter is the whole car.
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Flutter founder here. When I led the Google team we had pretty good analytics. `flutter` was for a long time opt-out with analytics and would phone home to Google and report usage. We filtered out docker containers and things that looked like CI and saw usage near 1M monthly actives when I left Google a couple years ago. I'm sure it's up since then. There are 10s of millions of web developers in the world. Doesn't sh…
Are there any statistics on how much of it is used in production?
- 5 years using Flutter - 31 full-time devs - 3 platforms (iOS, Android, and Web) - 1.3 million monthly active users
Overall, we’re very happy with our decision to use Flutter