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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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That's been my assumption since the beginning of this drama last year. He seems to have one goal: real AGI. He knows that while LLMs may make something that seems like AGI there's nothing actually intelligent about it and its never going to get them there. OpenAI wants to pivot and sell sell sell because all they see is potential trillions of dollars, and it's time to make money instead of burning more millions/billi…

There is more money in AGI than LLMs. Whatever it is, language seems key to intelligent algorithms. Nah, he departed due to politics (failed coup) and shift from research first to profit first. Same with Karpathy I believe. He’ll most likely go somewhere where he can get a lot of compute and go back to research first.

Like Google?

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Interesting, both Karpathy and Sutskever are gone from OpenAI now. Looks like it is now the Sam Altman and Greg Brockman show. I have to admit, of the four, Karpathy and Sutskever were the two I was most impressed with. I hope he goes on to do something great.

I don’t think people give Dario enough credit

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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When walking around the U of Toronto, I often think that ~10 years ago Ilya was in a lab next to Alex trying to figure things out. I can't believe this new AI wave started there. Ilya, Karpathy, Jimmy Ba, and many more were at the right time when Hinton was there too.

And none of them build AI companies in Toronto. I’m Canadian and disappointed at how ineffective we are at building successful companies.

The Canadian Dream is to get a great education and then move of the US.

You might want to blame the government or this or that but I think as a Canadian I've finally come to reckon with the fact that it's just not in the Canadian ethos to do risky things like make startups. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but they are very very rare. Canadian investors don't want to take big risks and the Americans are just next door waiting to gobble up the talent in search of capital.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And none of them build AI companies in Toronto. I’m Canadian and disappointed at how ineffective we are at building successful companies.

Couldn't a company like that get a huge tax benefit from the SRED program?

The amount of paperwork involved makes it unworkable

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

#389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's been my assumption since the beginning of this drama last year. He seems to have one goal: real AGI. He knows that while LLMs may make something that seems like AGI there's nothing actually intelligent about it and its never going to get them there. OpenAI wants to pivot and sell sell sell because all they see is potential trillions of dollars, and it's time to make money instead of burning more millions/billi…

There is more money in AGI than LLMs. Whatever it is, language seems key to intelligent algorithms. Nah, he departed due to politics (failed coup) and shift from research first to profit first. Same with Karpathy I believe. He’ll most likely go somewhere where he can get a lot of compute and go back to research first.

> There is more money in AGI than LLMs.

That doesn't matter, they know how to do LLMs, they don't know how to do AGI. To modern capitalists that means you invest in one and the other someone else can do.

OpenAI was exploratory until they found something that could make them rich, then they went closed and for profit, now you should see them as just another for profit.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Interesting, both Karpathy and Sutskever are gone from OpenAI now. Looks like it is now the Sam Altman and Greg Brockman show. I have to admit, of the four, Karpathy and Sutskever were the two I was most impressed with. I hope he goes on to do something great.

I don’t think people give Dario enough credit

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