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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by throwaway2037 »

hi-v-rocknroll wrote: post #259
TheTon wrote: post #67

From the article: “But 'American Idiot' wasn't a true act of revolution. In fact, the album was produced and promoted by a multinational conglomerate with the intent of packaging seemingly transgressive pop-punk acts for my exact demographic.” This is sort of beside the point of the article, but I was just reading an interview[1] with Billie Joe Armstrong about this album and it doesn’t sound like their process was a…

Green Day got a lot of air time in the 90's but the playola effect (the not payola wink-wink that still went on) died out in the early-mid 00's as rock and alt rock stations folded with demographic changes and mp3 trading took off. Also overplayed on the radio: Sublime, Rush, Van Halen, RHCP, and Metallica. As far as cultural impact over a larger timespan: Iron Butterfly, The Dead, Frank Zappa, Quiet Riot, Ozzy, MJ,…

From what I can tell from your list, it is 100% men. Where are the women? Heart might fit your list.

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Post by atoav »

lapcat wrote: post #168

I find it interesting that GenZ and Millennials show a much smaller preference for their own decade's music. https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_pr... The 1980s are still doing quite well among all but the oldest generation. Is it possible that music may actually be getting worse? Corporatized, consolidated, computerized. Look at Hollywood now too: everything is a sequel, prequel, remake, reboot…

I am not sure about the whole thing. When I was a teenager (so roughly the decade from 2000 to 2009) I hated my guts of any contemporary music, most of what I liked was from the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s etc.

Nowadays I have quite some things in my record collection from my teenage decade, some of which I discovered only a few years ago, some of which I knew and liked back then, but it wasn't popular music back then.

I always liked to think of this as some kind of survivor bias. There is trash music in everybtime period, but the good music will be listend to more often and thus shape the collective musical memory of a decade. The time we're in hasn't had the chance for that to happen yet, so it seems arbitrary and random as it happens and more defined in hindsight.

It also matters where you look. The 80s have a very recognizable pop music, but it also has Punk and multiple other things.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by guappa »

Whenever I sit in a venue that has background music, I realize that I know all the songs that are being played.

I think the problem is that new music isn't as played (except of course for the corporate pop that is imposed on us).

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Post by AmericanChopper »

readingnews wrote: post #151
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #106

I must be some sort of freak. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s listening to classic rock, and a lot of it I can’t even stand any more due to the incredibly small playlists that most classic rock stations use. In my 20’s I started listening to a lot of classical and then jazz. In the 90’s a lot of grunge which’s I still love. After that was trance in the 2000’s, then ambient, techno and IDM after that. I still listen to…

I find this very interesting, as my path is nearly identical, with the added note (like some other replies) that I just can not stand 60s-70s rock any longer... but I find my musical interests are much wider, and I am listening to more new music than ever before (trance, IDM, experimental, jazz, classical). I do know people who turn on some streaming service and basically listen to the same genre all day long. I am n…

Spotify gives me half a dozen suggested playlists, and they’re each broadly compartmentalized into different genres (or collections of similar genres).

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by NegatioN »

There seems to be a focus on something about the brain "calcifying" or people getting stuck in their own pattern over time here.

That may be a component, but I think anothet thing that correlates heavily with the graphs presented in the article is simply: When you have enough spare time to prioritize music. (although you could explicitly prioritize it like some commenters mention)

I still find lots of new music, but it always comes in periods of my life when I have some leeway, and those are fewer and farther between now.

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Post by amatecha »

at_a_remove wrote: post #373
ddingus wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They use a set of researched tracks by Arbitron and others seeking to maximize AD revenue by demographic. There is a TON of great classic rock to enjoy that never sees airplay and the reason is the researched tunes have "known" demographics that can be sold.

I have started a little research project wherein I have been harvesting the feeds of various Internet-active radio stations so I can look for the "deep cuts." Not just for classic rock, but for various "new wave" stations, as well as combining old "top 500" lists, and so on. I am nowhere near done, but I have made some notes that confirm old suspicions. One, you're quite right about classic rock having a lot of deep…

Aww hell yeah, dark jazz is great. I assume you know Bohren & der Club of Gore and Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble? (curious of any recommendations if you know more good stuff!)

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by Lerc »

I find as I get older the period that the music I listen to extends in both directions.

While most of the popular music released these days is crap, that was the case when I was young also. The things fondly remembered is the good stuff.

It's quite fun to look at old top 10 lists to see masterpieces sitting alongside fluff.

Recent discoveries. Klaus Nomi, Kirin J. Callinan.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by cesaref »

The useful metric with these sorts of things is to ask yourself, when was the last time you tried something that you didn't like?

For expensive experiences, say, going to the theatre, it's hard to see shows you don't think you are going to like, as the price pressure makes you choose 'safe bets' as the cost/reward is somewhat weighted in one direction.

For something like music, the above used to be the case, as typically we find our tribe in our early teens, and money is tight so again, you buy what you know you are going to like.

I imagine though that streaming may change this, since you can dive into just about anything. We really need music search which follows more interesting routes through content rather than just 'people who like this also like' or 'here's another album by someone you already listen to'.

I'm lucky, my musical taste has always been broad, and if anything, it's got broader as i've got older. I do find myself reaching for older stuff that i've not heard for a while rather than new music, so when I catch myself doing this too much, the 'i've not heard something I don't like' alarm goes off, and I track down something that a session player I like has played on that i've never heard before, and try and find something new.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by pimeys »

pxc wrote: post #303

I expect it'll never happen to me. My dad was still actively seeking out new music when I was a kid, streaming college radio via the Internet before Pandora, Last.fm, or Spotify were things. He's in his 60s today and he still listens to new music (in a range of genres) all the time. If novelty in music is actually important to you, this won't happen to you.

Yep. I'm in my 40's and I still every day check what new albums were released, and listen to as many of them as I can. Of course I take charades to old music every now and then, but over 50% of what I listen is new albums...

I think already this albums thing might leak my age. I guess people don't really listen to albums anymore...

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