Live data from Hacker News

Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

github.com

381–390 of 661 posts

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

#383
post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I pirate, it's sometimes based on convenience or quality (where else can I download DRM-free blu-ray quality movies? Or a band's discography lossless?), but other times, it's certainly about money. For example, I don't use FL studio anywhere near enough to warrant paying for it (I have literally just opened it a couple of times to play with it), but paying for a license would have been less work than pirating it…

$250 for Windows?? You’re off by an order of magnitude, just buy it from a reseller: g2a.com/search?query=Windows I’ve never had a problem with that site.

You don’t even need to buy a license. Alternate activation servers exist.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

#384
post #179

The lengths that literal engineers will go to to not have to pay $10/mo for music or $3 to rent a movie in 4k immediately. Can't believe I have adult friends who make 70-300k and they still pirate based on money, not quality/directors-cuts/anti-cheats, etc. I quit pirating when I got a real job and could afford to pay developers and movie teams for their effort. I write software. I want to get paid too, right? Why sh…

Feel free to pay for my Spotify subscription if you feel so strongly.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

#385
Wow this is really well made and polished, congrats for the creators for this acheivement.

One thing I notice, and that's not an issue of the app but rather that of the youtube sources is that the sound quality between songs is not consistent and overall worse than Spotify

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

#386
post #179

The lengths that literal engineers will go to to not have to pay $10/mo for music or $3 to rent a movie in 4k immediately. Can't believe I have adult friends who make 70-300k and they still pirate based on money, not quality/directors-cuts/anti-cheats, etc. I quit pirating when I got a real job and could afford to pay developers and movie teams for their effort. I write software. I want to get paid too, right? Why sh…

It's not about saving a few bucks, it's about taking responsibility for the consequences of your spending. If $1 out of $10 goes to supporting the artist and the other $9 goes towards stripping users of the ability to control their own devices, or towards other zero/negative sum games being played by the platform in the spirit of moat building, then paying for content through normal channels is doing more harm than g…

People say this but don’t understand the reason artists don’t make much per-listener on Spotify etc. is because of their record deals, it’s nothing to do with Spotify. If you’re an independent artist you can live comfortably off of a small Spotify audience!

The stories you hear about an artist getting pennies on millions of listens are because of their record deals and the credits on their work. You can’t solve this with software: artists enter these deals long before software is involved.

I’d argue that Spotify (and YouTube and TikTok etc) have done more for musicians because they’ve made it very easy to make a living when you have a core listener base. Software has not rescued major label artists from major label contracts because… how can it?

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

#387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well aware, but thanks for that snark. Might as well still ask people to support artists they love in a thread related to pirating, right?

I think it's mostly orthogonal. Pirating music only takes money away from artists in the case that you were going to buy their music, and don't now because you downloaded a file, which is probably the vast minority of downloads, I would guess. On the other hand, there are a ton of ways to support artists if you have the means, whether it's attending shows, buying merch, or what have you, none of which can be properly…

Oh sure. It even gets more nuanced than that, which can make figuring out how to support them a bit of a challenge. Some artists will release music streaming-only and then tour and make their cash that way, others (looking at you, Bibio) never tour and rely on sales of their music.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

#389
post #179

The lengths that literal engineers will go to to not have to pay $10/mo for music or $3 to rent a movie in 4k immediately. Can't believe I have adult friends who make 70-300k and they still pirate based on money, not quality/directors-cuts/anti-cheats, etc. I quit pirating when I got a real job and could afford to pay developers and movie teams for their effort. I write software. I want to get paid too, right? Why sh…

For me, it's not that I don't want artists to have money. (I just found an artist I liked who uploads all their live music--quality recordings!--to Internet Archive under a CC license. I went to their website and bought all their albums on the spot. They should arrive in a couple days, and then I'll rip them to FLAC and put them on my jellyfin server.)

But questionably-ethical companies I try not to give money to, e.g. companies that only pay artists pennies, or might suddenly disappear music that I "bought". And that's on top of the fact that Spotify in particular actually kinda sucks at suggesting good music. I quit them in the middle of my free trial because I got tired of hitting "next". My friends are much, much better suggestion engines.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

#390
post #179

The lengths that literal engineers will go to to not have to pay $10/mo for music or $3 to rent a movie in 4k immediately. Can't believe I have adult friends who make 70-300k and they still pirate based on money, not quality/directors-cuts/anti-cheats, etc. I quit pirating when I got a real job and could afford to pay developers and movie teams for their effort. I write software. I want to get paid too, right? Why sh…

It is not about the money for me, and also I'm happy to support the artists and regularly do by buying their vinyl when I can.

It is about the fact at any time Spotify, Apple, etc can remove music from my playlist for any reason and at any time. It's about the fact they require me to use their invasive, spyware, data mining BS apps in order to listen to my music. It is about the fact that when I want to listen to music in my car, I have to listen to it using the way they say I can.

I can't believe I have adult friends who really don't care about their personal privacy or freedoms and are ready to give it up at a moments notice for convenience.

Post reply on HN