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Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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I want ChatGPT for Family. The free version gets a lot of use around here but the most powerful feature is the ability to search the web, which is only available to paid users. I pay $20/month for myself and I’d happily pay a bit more for the whole family, but not $20/month per person - it adds up. Family members end up asking to borrow my phone a lot to use it. Give me a 3-4 person plan that costs $30-$40/month. You…

Can't you just share the login details?

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#382

Note that "no training on your data" is only for Team and Enterprise: https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing

I suspect that user data isn't really valuable for training from anyway - the data will be full of users lying to the bot to try to manipulate it.

But "we won't train from your data" is a powerful marketing line, and differentiator between classes of customer, even if they have no intention to train from the data of anyone.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#383

I want ChatGPT for Family. The free version gets a lot of use around here but the most powerful feature is the ability to search the web, which is only available to paid users. I pay $20/month for myself and I’d happily pay a bit more for the whole family, but not $20/month per person - it adds up. Family members end up asking to borrow my phone a lot to use it. Give me a 3-4 person plan that costs $30-$40/month. You…

I haven't found the web search feature particularly useful or helpful. Far too many sites are blocking the ChatGPT bot. I also find that ChatGPT isn't getting any better search results that I would if I searched for something myself. Quality of the results varies a lot too, and ChatGPT doesn't really seem to be able to distinguish between high quality content and not so high quality content. For software development…

ChatGPT's web search is interminably slow and I've added to my custom prompt to not do web searches unless explicitly asked. However, I'd give Perplexity.ai a try - I've found it to be incredibly fast and useful (funnily enough, they largely also use Bing for search retrieval results) and if you pay for Pro (which I do now), you can also use GPT-4 for generating responses.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#384

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Emil didn't, but I did (and yeah, it's useless): Mixtral-8x7: This appears to be a technical term, possibly referring to a software, framework, or technology. Its exact nature is unclear without additional context. Dolphin locally: "Dolphin" could refer to a software tool or framework. The term "locally" implies it is being run on a local machine or server rather than a remote or cloud-based environment. 3.5-turbo: T…

This is actually hilarious. It looks like a student who did not learn for the exam but still tries their best to scratch a point or two by filling the page with as many reasonnable sounding statements (a.k.a. "bullshit") as they can. Not that I expect more of a language model, no matter how "large".

GPT4 is able to look terms up on the Internet if you ask, and will give you a list of specs on it, with a cite so you know it's not hallucinating them.

"4070 Super": https://chat.openai.com/share/0aac7d90-de65-41d0-9567-8e56a0...

"Mixtral-8x7": https://chat.openai.com/share/8091ac61-d602-414c-bdce-41b49e...

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#385

Note that "no training on your data" is only for Team and Enterprise: https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing

You can make a privacy request for OpenAI to not train on your data here: https://privacy.openai.com/

Alternatively, you could also use your own UI/API token (API calls aren't trained on). Chatbot UI just got a major update released and has nice things like folders, and chat search: https://github.com/mckaywrigley/chatbot-ui

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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post #327

Adjacent question, leaving aside value proposition. Do companies pay for 1000 seats like this? I didn't realize slack is $5 a user a month. Do they discount this for bulk, or are companies paying $5k/month $60k/yearly? These subscriptions must really add up. On All In, they discussed the leverage from AI tools and they probably also meant open source, but one of the companies just rolled their own instance of a big m…

Yeah, companies really do. Once a year our company gets a really large bill (15k users, several services).

The thing is those same people need to be paid, and that’s a much (100x) larger bill, so the extra amount doesn’t really signify.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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post #286

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> Teams is a very generic product name. Microsoft can live with the consequences of that. Quite the contrary, Microsoft earns free advertisement from this. The problem is for the people that misunderstand the heading, not for Microsoft Ok, you would understand it correctly even the Zoom example. So? Heading should be optimized for the most possible amount of people, there is a clear possibility that a lot of people m…

The vast majority of people aren’t going to make the association. Even in the HN demo. I think people are vastly over estimating Microsoft’s ownership over ‘Teams’. Even within a tech context. Plus, everything we’ve seen from Microsoft in their partnership with OpenAI has been Co-Pilot. Which is why I use MS Teams daily and did not make the connection.

How do you know about "vast majority of people"? Did you run a survey?

I for one also thought it was Microsoft Teams in the heading.

If a heading misleads even a fraction of readership, for no apparent reason (what is the benefit of having a title in Title Case?), maybe it's better that the heading is changed, no?

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#388
post #247

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This is probably correct but I'd prefer that family don't read the conversations I've had, as even if I'm not saying anything too private, it feels too intrusive (it'd be a bit like reading my inner thoughts).

It's interesting that you're so trusting of strangers knowing your inner thoughts (OpenAI) but not your family

Is that truly interesting? OP does not have to care about what AI think of him. OP does notnhave to care about accidentally offending or hurting AI either. Open does nor have to care about whether AI finds him silly or whatever.

Normal humans care about all of those with their families.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#389

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> Is it your intent to convince them that they don't need privacy? Quite the opposite actually. My intent is to shed light on the fact that sharing information with OpenAI is not private. And you should not do that with information that you wouldn't even share with people you trust.

> Quite the opposite actually. My intent is to shed light on the fact that sharing information with OpenAI is not private. And you should not do that with information that you wouldn't even share with people you trust. I'm not OP, but I think you're missing the point. Privacy and trust isn't really a 1D gradient, it's probably planar or even spatial if anything. Personally I'd be more willing to trust OpenAI with cer…

> Same reason behind why someone may be willing to post a relationship situation to r/relationship_advice and yet not talk about the same thing with family and friends.

I ask that you consider the people who use Reddit and the people who run Reddit independently. The people who use Reddit are not in a position of power over someone who asks for advice. The people who run Reddit on the other hand, are in a position of power to be able to emotionally manipulate the person who asked for advice. They can show you emotionally manipulative posts to keep your attention for longer. They can promote your post among people who are likely to respond in ways that keep you coming back.

OpenAI has a similar position of power. That's why you shouldn't trust people at either of those companies with your private thoughts.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

#390
post #42

A major change is that you cannot opt out from having your conversations used for training unless you are usig a team account which is pretty costly for a single person.

According to this, you can still opt out of training, but you have to turn off history: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7730893-data-controls-fa...

That's been true for at least a month, not new with (though it may have been in anticipation of) teams support.
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