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23andMe changed its terms of service to prevent hacked customers from suing

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Re: 23andMe changed its terms of service to prevent hacked customers from suing

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Post by logifail »

rfrey wrote: post #211
logifail wrote: post #199

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> I can use it to optimize my health and longevity Q: Is it a HN thing to be (obsessively?) interested in health and longevity? Dying is a natural process. Sorry.

It's a human thing. Not all humans, but many. > Dying is a natural process. Sorry. Avoiding dying, as best one can, is also a natural behaviour.

> Avoiding dying, as best one can, is also a natural behaviour

Source?

Natural selection is about passing on our genes which looks like: reproduce, raise your offspring ...

Re: 23andMe changed its terms of service to prevent hacked customers from suing

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Post by sedatk »

panda-giddiness wrote: post #366
rocho wrote: post #358

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> Even my brother and I share only ~50% DNA. This is completely false. Any two random humans have more than 99% overlap by virtue of being the same species. It's even higher for brothers. We also share around 90% DNA with cats, dogs and elephants. https://www.amacad.org/publication/unequal-nature-geneticist... > I'm not too worried about it because it's never a 100% overlap. This doesn't make sense. If they were equa…

I think it was clear that @sedatk was referring to the 1% that separates him from other human beings, not the 99% that separates him from trees.

Yes, I thought it was clear. I certainly wasn't referring to the risk of incrimination of chimpanzees.

Re: 23andMe changed its terms of service to prevent hacked customers from suing

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Post by tuwtuwtuwtuw »

hot_gril wrote: post #361
themaninthedark wrote: post #313

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Why? You can change your phone number and your name. Good luck with doing so with your DNA.

Phone numbers are an increasingly important identifier. Sucks to lose one.

What do you mean by "identifier"?

For me, phone numbers have had reduced importance over the last couple of years. Most of my communication with other people are over various messaging apps.

Re: 23andMe changed its terms of service to prevent hacked customers from suing

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Post by 93po »

itronitron wrote: post #158
93po wrote: post #140

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The long term premise of WorldCoin is to not store retina scans in any way, and scanning stations in the US already do not do so.

'long term premise'

They need training data. Is it awful that they're collecting it with extremely explicit consent and even providing generous compensation for it? Are beta versions of products not allowed to be different than final versions? Most tech companies would just take your data without asking and provide you nothing in return.

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Post by hot_gril »

tuwtuwtuwtuw wrote: post #383
hot_gril wrote: post #361

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Phone numbers are an increasingly important identifier. Sucks to lose one.

What do you mean by "identifier"? For me, phone numbers have had reduced importance over the last couple of years. Most of my communication with other people are over various messaging apps.

Identifier as in, used for authentication and possibly even tied to your real name. Even messaging apps don't tend to have screen-names like AIM, they have phone numbers, including the so-called "privacy-focused" Signal. Tons of in-person services (govt, banks, etc) will also want one, and it may be used as yet another piece proving your real identity.

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Post by croes »

dekhn wrote: post #172
croes wrote: post #78

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So you would be ok if governments around the world have sample of yours and store it in a database?

There is no practical way to prevent it, so yes, it's OK because there is no reasonable alternative.

So everything you can't prevent is ok?

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Post by JohannesH »

dev1ycan wrote: post #45

I don't feel bad for anyone who sent their dna to a private capitalistic company. It was always obvious this was gonna happen. Especially when these companies paid so much to politicians like Bernie Sanders to appear on their ads to seem "benign".

By that logic no privately owned company would ever be held accountable for anything they did wrong.

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Post by eshack94 »

dexterdog wrote: post #352
eshack94 wrote: post #210

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If I'm not mistaken, that's the point the person above you was making. Those stickers on dump trucks that say "Stay back 200 feet. Not responsible for broken windshields" are worthless from a legal perspective. They do absolutely nothing to remove liability from the truck driver/company. If a rock falls from their truck and cracks your windshield, they absolutely are responsible for any damages. Rather, their sole va…

Isn't their sole value to keep most people back far enough so they don't get their windshields broken?

Actually yeah, you're probably right. That's probably their main value followed by what I commented originally (in the case drivers aren't far enough back and get hit by a rock).

Re: 23andMe changed its terms of service to prevent hacked customers from suing

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Post by micromacrofoot »

themaninthedark wrote: post #314
micromacrofoot wrote: post #18

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Most of the time we're leaking our DNA all over the place by existing

Your SSN and credit card number are listed on many documents and are transmitted by you all the time, why do you have a problem posting them in clear text here for us?

what can you buy with my dna

thanks to multiple health insurance breaches, if you know my name you can find my ssn

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