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Re: Developer account removed by Apple

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Post by janc_ »

michaelmrose wrote: post #346
smegger001 wrote: post #206

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As you mention two companies I can only assume the other is Google and android. Which I find odd as I have multiple other appstores and repositories on my phone and every other android device I have owned. My phones and tablets usually come with not just the Google Play Store, but also the manufacturers app store, and I install fdroid on all my android devices, and have in the past installed the Amazon app store on m…

It would be more competitive if it worked like software sources under Linux whereby you can use a singular interface to manage software from different sources.

That's possible with F-Droid (& Aurora Store, I think).

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Post by janc_ »

TylerE wrote: post #367
Keyframe wrote: post #133

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One of the main draws of iOS is its resistance to malware, adware, and outright scam apps. Have we visited the same appstore? Just few days ago I tried to find a puzzle game for my kid and myself to play together. A whole bunch of them, from top results, resulted in games which had shady dark UI initial screens trying to get to $14.99 or similar monthly subscriptions. Eventually I caved in to arcade sub because I cou…

Looked at android recently? It’s far far worse. Also “has ads” isn’t a synonym for “malware”.

That's only true for some Android application stores.

Re: Developer account removed by Apple

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Post by Keyframe »

TylerE wrote: post #367
Keyframe wrote: post #133

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One of the main draws of iOS is its resistance to malware, adware, and outright scam apps. Have we visited the same appstore? Just few days ago I tried to find a puzzle game for my kid and myself to play together. A whole bunch of them, from top results, resulted in games which had shady dark UI initial screens trying to get to $14.99 or similar monthly subscriptions. Eventually I caved in to arcade sub because I cou…

Looked at android recently? It’s far far worse. Also “has ads” isn’t a synonym for “malware”.

Yes, I have and to be honest I haven't noticed a difference at all, apart google at least pretending it cares with play protect.

Re: Developer account removed by Apple

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Post by janc_ »

quitit wrote: post #211
lapcat wrote: post #138

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> One of the main draws of iOS is its resistance to malware, adware, and outright scam apps. The crApp Store is full of scams. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/06/06/apple-a... https://www.wired.com/story/chatgpt-scams-apple-app-store-go... https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/02/pig-b... https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2021/05/15/apple-ip... https://9to5mac.com/2022/01/11/develo…

I hear your argument, but it's not convincing. Your logic states that because an app can occasionally slip through the review process, that we should remove -all- protections. That isn't better, that's worse. A scam is also a relatively low bar to set for such drastic change, since scams also frequently occur over chat apps and the kinds of access that side-loading and 3rd party stores can avail opens the door to sig…

About 99.9% of apps in the Google Play Store contain spyware (and I doubt it's much better in Apple's store?).

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Post by janc_ »

graemep wrote: post #150
judge2020 wrote: post #98

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One of the main draws of iOS is its resistance to malware, adware, and outright scam apps. Requiring third party app stores disproportionately harms those that purchased the device specifically for these purposes (such as people at higher risks of being targeted by nation state actors). And this isn’t something that can be addressed with a new uber-secure product just for these people, because the EU will deem it a g…

No one has to use third party app stores. Android allows third party app stores and it is not a significant cause of problems. I am sure there must be some bad app stores out there, but the well known ones like F-Droid are probably better curated than Google's own. Linux has always allowed third party repositories. Again, rarely a source of problems - again, there must be some bad things out there but the percentage…

In fact, F-Droid is infinitely better than Google's own app store, where almost all apps contain spyware...

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Post by adastra22 »

burnte wrote: post #182
adastra22 wrote: post #64

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> In that scenario, Apple should have been more specific in their communications. In that scenario Apple is highly constrained in what they can say.

By who? If it's by internal rules, they are not constrained, they choose not to share info.

You're not allowed to tell users that an account has been flagged for criminal use, as this tips off the user and makes you an accomplice.

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Post by SushiHippie »

ceejayoz wrote: post #21
wahnfrieden wrote: post #13

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Apple allows “for X” and “powered by X” type app names per official policy cited by App Store reviewers There are other patterns they allow that I’m unfamiliar with. Perhaps “X Maker” is one of them because it appears there are many other developer accounts using this pattern from a quick search. The point is that using another trademark isn’t itself a violation necessarily

Yes, but the app depicted doesn’t do that. https://about.instagram.com/blog/announcements/introducing-b... https://apps.apple.com/us/app/boomerang-video-maker/id145467...

The second link you provided isn't the boomerang app from instagram, it looks like the official one does not exist anymore.

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Post by wouldbecouldbe »

js2 wrote: post #154
wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #26

Working with Apple is horrific, I have a small Saas company publishing fitness apps. They don't give a f**. They treat you like a peasant, while constantly making review mistakes (like asking questions explained all caps in the review notes), unexplained white screens, bugs & unreachable appstore connects. I often had an app rejected because IAPurchase takes too long because of Apple's server being too slow. Then the…

If it makes you feel any better, I work for a not small company and Apple and Google both treat our app submissions the same way. We have rejections so often we have a Slack channel dedicated to it, an internal FAQ, and automated checks we run before submitting. The "What's New" notes are a favorite for reviewers to nitpick. We recently had an app rejected because the "What's New" section included the phase "and othe…

Off late my biggest apps actually getting through easily. They have a whitelist system it seems. But also a blacklist, one mistake seems to pile up issues

Re: Developer account removed by Apple

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Post by GuB-42 »

_pigpen__ wrote: post #288
terminous wrote: post #239

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This isn't an Apple problem, it's a problem with every business review platform. If a shady marketing firm takes a contract to give an app fake 5 star reviews, there's no way for the review platform to know if that shady marketing firm was hired by the app's developer or their competitor. Only the marketing firm knows.

If the App Store is the only vehicle for selling mobile apps on Apple devices, then by virtue of their monopoly, they have a duty to be entirely transparent and fair. It’s entirely an Apple problem.

They are transparent and fair. Fake reviews are not allowed. Apple has no way to know if you hired a fake review company or if some competitor did. Their moderation team can only check for fake reviews, not who paid for them. Of course, if they ask developers if they did something wrong and they did, they will get lied to.

And it shouldn't be Apple's problem. Apple is not a court of law. They have no business knowing about their developers internal affairs, imagine the conflicts of interest. This is a matter for an actual court of law, that can issue warrants and subpoenas, where perjury is a thing, where there is fair trail and where you can ask damage and the guilty party get charged for fraud. You obviously don't want to give these powers to a private company.

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