Any analysis on how Satya Nadella comes out on all of this? Or what impact this might have at all within Microsoft?
We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#382Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…
That they reached a different conclusion than the outcome you wished for does not indicate a lack of critical thinking skills. They have a different set of information than you do, and reached a different conclusion.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#383"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that will reset the governance of OpenAl. Microsoft will likely have a seat on that expanded board, as will Altman himself." https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/172721237871736880...
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#384In a different thread I commented how surprised I was that Emmett Shear accepted the job of interim CEO, to some criticism that my opinion was “silly”. This is why he should have stayed miles away from this whole mess. There was no winning scenario for him: stay CEO and lose 95% of the employees, or get ignored by a triumphant return of Sam Altman.
They were both members of the inaugural class of Y-Combinator, and all of Shear's published actions since accepting the role (like demanding evidence of Sam' wrongdoing) seem to have helped Sam return to his role.
I don't think it's a stretch to say that he did win, in that he might have accomplished exactly what he wanted when he accepted the role.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#385Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…
It wasn't necessarily groupthink - there was profound pressure from team Sam to sign that petition. What's going to happen to your career when you were one of the 200 who held out initially?
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#386At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…
In the 1990s and the 00s, it was no too uncommon for anti-GMO environmental activist / ecoterrorist groups to firebomb research facilities and to enter farms and fields to destroy planted GMO plants. Earth Liberation Front was only one of such activist groups [1].
We have yet to see even one bombing of an AI research lab. If people really are afraid of AIs, at least they do so more in the abstract and are not employing the tactics of more traditional activist movements.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front#Notable...
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#387At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…
Both sides of the rift in fact care a great deal about AI Safety. Sam himself helped draft the OpenAI charter and structure its governance which focuses on AI Safety and benefits to humanity. The main reason of the disagreement is the approach they deem best: * Sam and Greg appear to believe OpenAI should move toward AGI as fast as possible because the longer they wait, the more likely it would lead to the proliferat…
I can't believe that
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#388Larry Summers and no females
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#389Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…
From here on out there is going to be far more media scrutiny on who gets picked as a board member, where they stand on the company's policies, and just how independent they really are. Sam, Greg and even Ilya are off the board altogether. Whoever they can all agree on to fill the remaining seats, Sam is going to have to be a lot more subservient to them to keep the peace.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#390Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…
> OpenAI is in fact not open Apple is also not an apple