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Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Post by debatem1 » Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 6:14 PM UTC

oblio wrote: post #378

debatem1 wrote: post #374

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> different alphabets What does this have to do with conformity? > Oh, give extra points if the countries have strong ties to the EU Norway does not use a standard English alphabet. Are you for or against Norwegian immigrants?

I'm tired of this. Read the friendly book. You want to preach from your high horse. It's not just about conformity. There are a lot of misaligned axes. Again, read the book. Cultures can be more similar and more different. On many axes it doesn't matter, on some it matters a great deal. > Norway does not use a standard English alphabet. Are you for or against Norwegian immigrants? This is just obtuse, and we both kno…

> This is just obtuse, and we both know it.

Why? Should it be obvious to me why you would oppose Arab immigration but not, say, Swedish immigration? In a thread about Swedish gang violence?

You claim I'm preaching but I've made no claims. If you're tired of avoiding questions about yours I guess I don't feel sad about that so far.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Post by occz » Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 9:34 PM UTC

ecmascript wrote: post #78

occz wrote: post #52

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I've lived several months in an area considered to be one of the worst in Sweden, zero problems whatsoever. The standard for bad in Sweden is just pretty damn high.

What area exactly? I honestly as a swede do not believe you.

I understand that you find it hard to believe with your strong right-wing lean, given that it doesn't really fit your narrative.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Post by namaria » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 9:11 AM UTC

antics9 wrote: post #111

Shootings occur in all kinds of areas in the major cities, but also in smaller towns. Sweden has also had a worrying number of bombs outside stairwells in residential areas and in detached houses. Therefore, the problems are not only concentrated in marginalized areas or what the Swedish Police call, particularly vulnerable areas. Per capita, Sweden has twice as many gang members as Mexico but you can hardly compare…

The Netherlands have a big residential bombing issue as well. This issue is not fueled by migration. It's the moralizing prohibition of hard drugs followed by exploding profits, violent market takeovers, corruption and erratic enforcement sparking territorial runs.

Re: Gang crisis shaking Sweden

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 9:16 AM UTC

WirelessGigabit wrote: post #323

defrost wrote: post #316

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> It's not a good idea to take in massive amounts of poor and uneducated refugees from distant cultures, give them free money and housing, and then just leave them be. Literally the founding story of European Australia .. the bulk of poor uneducated landed here had criminal records to boot. Still, they were given work to pass the time and after a few decades 'free' land (well, other peoples land). These days modern A…

Culturally they were all relatively equal. Same base religion. This is not the case with the refugee situation across Europe. Not to mention that the Australia thing happened in a time when there was plenty more space & opportunity.

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