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Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by verdverm »

tombert wrote: post #313
verdverm wrote: post #309

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Bard has different training data and regime, that alone is enough to start to understand why they are different. The main thing as a user is that they require different nudges to get the answer you are after out of them, i.e. different ways of asking or prompt eng'n

Yeah, which is why I use the paid version of ChatGPT still, instead of the free Google Bard or Bing AI; I've gotten good enough at coercing the GPT-4 model to give me the stuff I want. Honestly, $20/month is pretty cheap in my case; I feel like I definitely extract much more than $20 out of it every month, if only on the number of example stubs it gives me alone.

I stopped paying OpenAI because they went down or were "too busy" so much of the time I wanted to use it. Bard (or more so the VertexAI APIs) are always up and reliable and do not require a monthly fee, just the per call

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by TeMPOraL »

colinsane wrote: post #283
TeMPOraL wrote: post #261

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For individuals, this is a very short window of time where we have cheap access to an actually useful, and relatively unshackled SOTA model[0]. This is the rare time individuals can empower themselves, become briefly better at whatever it is they're doing, expand their skills, cut through tedium, let their creativity bloom. It's only a matter of time before many a corporation and startup parcel it all between themsel…

> Benefits are too great, and worst that can happen is... going back to where one is now. true only if there's no form of lock-in. OpenAI is partnered with people who have decades of tech + business experience now: if they're not actively increasing that lock-in as we speak then frankly, they suck at their jobs (and i don't think they suck at their jobs).

That's my point - right now there is no lock-in for an individual. You'd have to try really, really hard to become dependent on ChatGPT. So right now is the time to use it.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by iwebdevfromhome »

rekttrader wrote: post #345

Glad I managed to get some work done with it while it was working for a few hours. Holy smokes the code interpreter functionality has been a complete game changer for my workflow.

Like the rest of the replies here, I'm also interested in knowing how this works

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by danShumway »

phyrex wrote: post #212
joshuaissac wrote: post #65

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No, but the firmware runs locally, instead of in someone else's cloud, so an outage in their cloud cannot take down my fridge.

https://www.samsung.com/us/explore/family-hub-refrigerator/o...

Nice, looks like we finally got around to inventing refrigerator magnets!

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That is a little bit dismissive of me though. There are some cool features here:

I can now "entertain in my kitchen", which is definitely a normal thing that normal people do. I love getting everyone together to crowd around my refrigerator so that we can all watch Game of Thrones.

And I can use Amazon Alexa from my fridge just in case I'm not able to talk out loud to the cheap unobtrusive device that has a microphone in it specifically so that it can be placed in any room of the house. So having that option is good.

And perhaps the biggest deal of all, I can finally "shop from home." That was a huge problem for me before, I kept thinking, "if only I had a better refrigerator I could finally buy things on websites."

And this is a great bargain for only 3-5 thousand dollars! I can't believe I was planning to buy some crappy normal refrigerator for less than a thousand bucks and then use the extra money I saved to mount a giant flat-screen TV hooked up to a Chromecast in my kitchen. That would have been a huge mistake for me to make.

Honestly it's just the icing on the cake that I can "set as many timers as [I] want." That's a great feature for someone like me because I can't set any timers at all using my phone or a voice assistant. /s

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Holy crud, smart-device manufacturers have become unhinged. The one feature that actually looks useful here is being able to take a picture of the inside of the fridge while you're away. That is basically the one feature that I would want from a fridge that isn't much-better handled using a phone or a tablet or a TV or a normal refrigerator button. Which, great, but the problem is that I know what the inside of my fridge looks like right now, and let me just say: if I was organized enough that a photograph of the inside of my fridge would be clear enough to tell me what food was in it, and if I was organized enough that the photo wouldn't just show 'a pile of old containers, some of them transparent and some of them not' -- I have a feeling that in that case I would no longer be the type of person that needed to take a photo of the inside of my refrigerator to know what was in it.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by bugglebeetle »

rekttrader wrote: post #375
vouaobrasil wrote: post #370

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Do you think the next step may be that it actually replaces you as a programmer?

It can... fortunately I’m a principle @ my firm... the engineers I would have needed to hire might have been preemptively replaced. My use case is a bunch of adhoc data analysis.

As a data scientist, I’m happy that most data continues to be so terribly formatted and inconsistent as to break and confuse AI. But for how long that’s true, who knows!

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by mprev »

omgbear wrote: post #371
root_axis wrote: post #360

i used bard today. it's gotten a lot better.

I hope so! I'm still surprised by the problems with it. Last month it lied about some facts then claimed to have sent an email when asked for more details.[1] Then apologized for claiming to send an email since it definitely did not and "knew" it could not. It's like a friend who can't say 'I don't know' and just lies instead. 1. I was asking if the 'Christ the King' statue in Lisbon ever had a market in it, a rumor…

Bard promised me it would design a website for me. It said it’d get back to me in a couple of weeks. I can’t even remember the prompt but it was basically LARPing as a Wordpress theme designer.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by elashri »

rekttrader wrote: post #369
rekttrader wrote: post #345

Glad I managed to get some work done with it while it was working for a few hours. Holy smokes the code interpreter functionality has been a complete game changer for my workflow.

I have a tampermonkey script that downloads any files that the prompt returns... a python script locally to watch for file changes and extract the contents to the projects working directory and it can work both ways, if I edit my prompts.txt local file, it passes that data to openai’s currently opened chat and renames the file and creates a new empty prompt.txt

Seems very interesting abd smart trick.

Would you mind sharing the script with us?

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by objectivetruth »

grishka wrote: post #366
m3kw9 wrote: post #156

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And then you will have to endure not using a model by OpenAI that is 10x better than a local one

What is so special about OpenAI's cloud hardware that one can't build themselves a similar server to run AI models of similar size?

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Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by all2 »

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"
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