Children of married parents do better, but America is moving the other way

Post by lazide » Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 9:13 PM UTC

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This is one of the reasons that I think Kant's ideas on Deontology (also Confucian philosophy around relationships) is the correct one for a functioning society. There is a framework of "Right" and "Wrong" that exists outside of "Good" and "Bad". Doing what is beneficial for society, and what is expected of society is right, regardless of the Good nature of it. If society expects you to fight in a war, and you kill s…

The consequences of the society decide what is right has very bad consequences i.e [1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem

Post by skissane » Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 10:03 PM UTC

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> It's really disgusting what they're doing here. They don't talk about whether you love the other person, or whether you complement each other... > The tone of this article: it reads like it was written by a sociopath The mediaeval Catholic philosopher/theologian Thomas Aquinas argued [0] that the primary purpose of marriage is for the good of children, by giving them certainty about their own paternity. A long way…

Oh wow, Aquinas opining about something he himself had never experienced. I'm sure this has some merit. Let's spend a couple hundred years trying to figure out what he meant, I'm sure we'll get somewhere

Post by lazide » Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 10:22 PM UTC

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> and wants people to have more kids. That doesn't seem to be the case. The last 60 years saw plenty of anti family propaganda (same like in the US) and the numbers confirm that trend. The only people keeping the number of kids per family high are immigrants from Africa / Middle East who haven't been indoctrinated for 60 years.

How many African and Middle Eastern immigrants do you think the US currently has? I'll give you a hint - it's quite a lot less than the number of Mormons in the US. Who are a group significantly whiter than the US general population, and with higher birth rates to boot.

Post by lazide » Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 10:27 PM UTC

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On a slightly related note, why is it that one gets lynched on twitter nowadays any time one brings up that "correlation doesn't imply causation"?

Because it’s on you to show what about the correlation makes causation unlikely, and most people don’t take that step. We all know correlation isn’t causation, that’s trite and obvious. Why wouldn’t the correlation between married parents and better child outcomes be causative?

Post by lazide » Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 10:31 PM UTC

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> Kearney says she's not advocating that children live in a household filled with marital tension or where parents are unhappy or mistreating each other. Then what is the proposed solution? Pointing out the problem is the easy part. But if you want more people to be married, and if they're currently choosing not to get married, then you need to either force them to get married against their will (institutionalized sh…

That adults grow up, realise that they now have a responsibility to each other and to their child. If that is not possible, then the solution is not to have children, which is a 100% fair choice.