Rasbperry Pis are losing their competitive edge for non-embedded applications to sub $150 mini PCs, which support Linux/Windows and will come with enclosure, NVMe slot, power button etc. The mini PCs are also generally much faster.
Where can I find these mini PCs? I am trying to find hardware for an upcoming project and I’m considering the Pi but would love to see some alternatives.
Raspberry Pi 5
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#382What would someone excited about the improved specs on the 5 be using a Pi for? I have 1-2 of each gen, but to me, they aren't devices I would use if I needed grunt. They're just solid little low power, low heat devices for running odds and ends. Curious what people who are pushing them hard are using them for.
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100%. I use them for development. One has ubuntu installed and the other Fedora.
Interesting. Can you give more details on your work? I've been on the edge lately over picking a desktop, an intel NUC or something like a Pi. Price to performance and power draw is something I'm considering.
https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Pi-Computer-Frequency-Android/...
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#385Active cooling is not an option for me. I use RPI exactly for the reason it does not require active cooling.
But it says that active cooling is only necessary for heavy workload, if you're fine with that then no fan required.
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I think it’s hard to generalize that into a phenomenon. I have always bought 2 new raspberry pies with every release. I’ve used some and forgotten, unplugged some, given away some, broke some, and now they’re all used in some way. I bought them because I knew I’ll use them. I didn’t buy any other random toys or mini computing devices (even though they were alluring) because I knew I wouldn’t use them. There should be…
I dub it "phenomenonization". I do recognize GP, though. In college, I was obsessed with Linux. Nowadays I have a Macbook, and like you, have an Intel NUC (running Windows). I really don't need a Raspberry. But boy, do I need to resist the urge to get one.
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The worst part about it is they require a nonstandard, USB-C standard-violating proprietary power brick that does 5V5A. None of your 100W Anker or Apple power bricks will supply this. They'll do 12V3A, 12V5A, 20V5A, but not 5V5A. Yet another piece of nonstandard USB-C equipment.
> When using a standard 5V, 3A (15W) USB-C power adapter with Raspberry Pi 5, by default we must limit downstream USB current to 600mA to ensure that we have sufficient margin to support these workloads. This is lower than the 1.2A limit on Raspberry Pi 4, though generally still sufficient to drive mice, keyboards, and other low‑power peripherals. This is also very uncool, since powering it through the GPIO header wi…
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#388I would love to see a more side by side comparison of specs. 2-3x times the speed pretty good though. The raspi 4 was just on the cusp of being usable as a main computer, I wonder how good this will be.
I use a Pi 400 (running Debian) as my primary dev box and access terminal to the Internet. ^_^
It definitely works for me, but I fear that you will next tell us that you need to run software that isn't compiled for ARM (e.g. Adobe graphics suite) or to connect some specific hardware, such as a centrifuge that works only with Windows drivers.
Cheers!
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#389There goes building somewhat featureful toy kernels for your RPi
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Did you read the blog post? :) "Raspberry Pi 5 consumes significantly less power, and runs significantly cooler, than Raspberry Pi 4 when running an identical workload. However, the much higher performance ceiling means that for the most intensive workloads, and in particular for pathological “power virus” workloads, peak power consumption increases to around 12W, versus 8W for Raspberry Pi 4."
Is there a way to limit the processor power so that it never exceeds a certain threshold? Because some people might be okay with slower processor if it means less power usage.