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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by carlosjobim »

rchaud wrote: post #193
pokeymcsnatch wrote: post #131

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It's a paid service and all their competitors are 'free'. Enshittification doesn't fit their business model, they'd go under in a heartbeat.

Cable TV didn't use to have ads, until somebody figured out you could charge the customer and have other streams of revenue as well. For Kagi, it's a matter of when, not if. Capitalism guarantees it.

How nice then that you can use Kagi as it is right now, today. Then if your prediction comes true in the future you can stop using Kagi.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by lost_tourist »

MrVandemar wrote: post #13

The top-ranked sources really show Kagi's current demographic. It obviously is attractive to programmers and IT professionals. I wonder if they are interested in attracting users with more diverse searching requirements, and if so, how they would be able to actually reach them.

It's gotta be better than the SEO garbage on Google

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by RockRobotRock »

karaterobot wrote: post #82

Pinterest was certainly the first site I blocked. I've never understood the hate for w3schools. No, it's not MDN, but it's not offensively bad either, and it's been a helpful reference from time to time. If w3schools comes up first in a search, I trust that it probably has the answer to whatever very simple question I must have asked, unlike something like Pinterest, which will just be spam no matter what.

Thank god for MDN...Wish I had it when I was learning HTML.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by ajkdhcb2 »

nottorp wrote: post #378
ajkdhcb2 wrote: post #372

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Even if it were a process as invasive and painful as getting a bank account, it would remain the only technology that enables users to get a search account privately (since Kagi says cash is not scalable for them). Given the level of snark and off-topicness, I presume you don't actually expect me to answer the question with dozens of different methods. This is a company that claims over and over that they are privacy…

> Given the level of snark and off-topicness, I presume you don't actually expect me to answer the question with dozens of different methods. Dozens of different methods to ... buy crypto? You can keep them. I would trust something like Kagi more than any crypto exchange to keep my privacy. You are right that it may not be a good idea to have all your searches tied to your identity, but mixing crypto into that won't…

I dont understand anything you wrote here

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by junon »

naillo wrote: post #360
int_19h wrote: post #245

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Yes, and historically those code demos were often wrong in many important ways (like not working in all browsers, or insecure). They are much better now but reputation is hard to recover.

That must have been like 12 years ago or more at least because in my career I don't have much memory of feeling betrayed by the information on their site.

Yes some people have been doing web development for more than 12 years (:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110412103745/http://w3fools.co...

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by barnabee »

nottorp wrote: post #297
ajkdhcb2 wrote: post #275

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Hope you enjoy linking all your search queries to your credit card, really. This attitude is unbelievable to me.

And pray tell, how does one acquire this Monero that you're defending with religious fervor? By linking your credit card to some "currency" exchange that may or may not already be under investigation for fraud?

If you use your credit card with an exchange to buy Monero, then use that Monero (from a non-custodial/self operated wallet) to pay for Kagi search (or Mullvad or anything else) you’re not linking the ID tied to the credit card to your searches and other activity. That’s the point.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by carlosjobim »

joshspankit wrote: post #337
slaughtr wrote: post #108

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I was worried about the 1000 search limit, and it has so far (since beta) proven not to be a problem. I use Kagi for all my searches on all machines and my phone and average 800 or so a month. I haven’t modified my behavior at all, and consider myself a heavy search engine user. I have a theory that I would actually need to do twice as many searches with Google or DuckDuckGo or whatever, since the SEO spam would forc…

> I have a theory that I would actually need to do twice as many searches with Google or DuckDuckGo or whatever This is a great point that should really be highlighted more in their marketing. It was obvious once I read it and shows two obvious benefits: 1. There is probably zero issue with fitting in to the 1000 searches per month. 2. It saves time for many of the searches we’re already doing.

> 1. There is probably zero issue with fitting in to the 1000 searches per month.

You are never limited to 1000 monthly searches, this is a great misunderstanding about Kagi. After passing your threshold, you are charged 1.5c per query.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by suslik »

Dah00n wrote: post #261
abtinf wrote: post #105

Every time Kagi comes up, a lot of folks say it is too expensive. That it should be unlimited. That if it was just $x per month, then it would be worth it. That they feel uncomfortable about the limits. I will simply say that I cannot imagine going back to being a “user” of a “search provider” over being a paying Kagi customer. It is the single most critical service I worry about losing. If they octupled the price to…

Not all HN users are US tech employees though. How much US$25 is differs a lot.

Very few people actually need unlimited searches. I search things compulsively - for example, while searching for something related to language A, my mind makes me search for the same thing in languages B and C, what happened to the last duke of Brunswick, and where can I download the latest bonobo genome.

When Kagi transitioned from unlimited plan to 1200 searches (later increased to 1500) for early adopters, I was certain this would bankrupt me, but I decided to try it out. Turns out, most of the time I somehow don't even hit that limit.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by DavideNL »

freediver wrote: post #57
jonReadingNews wrote: post #45

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I was hesitant to configure my partner’s devices (family plan) to set as default engine but eventually convinced them and they haven’t even brought it up once since. I assume no news is good news! I would be less hesitant to recommend to other non-tech friends/family if it were easier to configure as default on Safari. Heck, I’d even entertain gifting subscriptions. The quality of results for me has been incredibly r…

Thank you very much for the kind words. Unfortunately we can not influence the choices that Safari makes, but we did pull an effort to build an entire browser [1] to replace it because of that :) [1] https://browser.kagi.com

There's an alternative [1], so you can use any search engine. Although i always wonder about whether my privacy is at risk when using this app...

[1] xSearch for Safari: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/xsearch-for-safari/id157990206...

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