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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by js2 »

madars wrote: post #341
lttlrck wrote: post #339

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SMS messages have always been green on iOS. Since before iMessage existed. I don't recall ever having trouble reading them.

They deliberately reduced the contrast. Compare iOS 5 when iMessage came out: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/archive/09-27... and now: https://images.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3468389/how_t... This underscores GP's point: Apple is expert at making anti-consumer decisions that fall just inside the Overton window.

What am I missing here? In iOS 5, it's black on blue vs black on green. Now it's white on blue vs white on green. Contrast between text and background looks the same to whether green or blue.

In general, Apple has lowered contrast throughout the UI over the years. There's an accessibility setting for high contrast if you need it.

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn »

freeAgent wrote: post #332
mike31fr wrote: post #327

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No, they don't believe in it, I know from experience. They know it's BS. They know it's bad. But it's not appropriate to say out loud things like "We made this change because we want more money and don't really care about freedom or privacy, so that's how it's going to be whether you like it or not", so they are trying to find nice sentences. But they know, trust me.

It must be a soul crushing job to spend all one’s time justifying anti-user features with corporate doublespeak.

For some people. For some of us it comes more naturally (Making BS statements to justify some hostile policy)

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by TremendousJudge »

wongarsu wrote: post #27
frob wrote: post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

Google has an equally annoying crusade against anything that isn't Chrome. Visit google.com with Edge (on desktop) and you immediately get a popup on the top right "Google recommends using Chrome. Built for Windows. Easily search on Google with the fast, secure browser". As if there was any material difference between the browsers. We need a comeback of antitrust enforcement with teeth to get both Microsoft and Googl…

I discovered a fun one yesterday; downloaded google drive for desktop, wasn't able to sign in, got an "unknown error". Search for it, try all the solutions, delete gdrive cache, reinstall, reboot, etc. Started to think it might be registry related (I had done a bunch of weird stuff to the storage recently), then it ocurred to me to try the login flow through chrome instead of firefox.

It worked first try.

I don't think they explicitly broke it in ff, just that they don't test on anything that isn't chrome, which results in these nice side effects.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by crazygringo »

tredre3 wrote: post #258
crazygringo wrote: post #230

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When did Google open browser links by default in Chrome instead of the system default? This isn't about advertising, it's about not following system defaults.

> When did Google open browser links by default in Chrome instead of the system default? On my iphone the GMail app seems to frequently "forget" that Safari exists and I'm prompted to install Chrome when I tap a link. https://i.redd.it/tg2yj98o5ao51.jpg (Obtenir means Get/Install).

Yikes. But also how unusual. I just checked in Gmail on my iPhone and not only does it have a third option of Safari, it has a fourth option of "Default browser app".

It seems (?) to be a bug but it makes me wonder how widespread the bug is, how often it's triggered. But that is very not cool. Thanks for the screenshot.

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Post by 23B1 »

The sooner we realize that 'product managers' and 'UX designers' are now as bad as used car salesmen and NFT hucksters, the better.

I'm sorry, I LOVE building products and I LOVE design... but these fields have become grift central. No disrespect to folks in these fields, but remember how you came into this field talking about usability, cooperation, beautiful typography, color theory?

Bring those back.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by basch »

SebastianKra wrote: post #305
acomjean wrote: post #89

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are. Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS…

Battery throttling doesn’t fit the rest of these. Preventing a device reboot is pro consumer.

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

dmitrygr wrote: post #317
trelane wrote: post #304

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Or you could run Linux on Linux hardware and get the full hardware support and sweet battery life without the Microsoft spyware.

> sweet battery life Linux has never been this, and likely never will be. On any hardware supported fully by both, Windows will always have better battery life. Back when I was a thinkpad user, i'd literally live in a vmware workstation linux VM on windows, and THIS had better battery life than linux natively on the same thinkpad.

It should be noted that Lenovo's power management software (pre Win10) played a big part in users' happy battery experiences.

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Post by 015a »

basch wrote: post #388
SebastianKra wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are. Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS…

Battery throttling doesn’t fit the rest of these. Preventing a device reboot is pro consumer.

Ah, found that "heated discussion" the OP mentioned.
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