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Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
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Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
#382Ha. There were some weird posts from new users in subreddits I frequent. 'we need to rise up against the mods the blackout is an outrage!' It was met with unanimous wtf is wrong with you, go outside. I get the feeling spez is creating new accounts and posting as them again.
During this whole debacle, there's been quite a few posts across various parts of the internet that register to me as astroturfing, including a handful on HN. It's not about the opinions presented, nothing wrong with dissent, but the way these posts express those opinions just feels wrong somehow — I've seen 20 years worth of impassioned people posting on the internet, and these posts come off as poor imitations of t…
What you're describing is textbook paranoia. People exist, real people, who hold opinions that differ from yours, including me.
Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I don’t give a shit about the blackouts and have been commenting on Reddit how dumb it is. I have been seeing the polls in the subreddits I frequent and it’s like 65/35 to keep them open. Pretty solid majority.
It’s certainly _not_ dumb to those who are participating in the blackout. Phrasing their position in that light will cause your argument to fall on deaf ears.
Calling it dumb is a signal that you don't care if the argument falls on deaf ears.
Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
#384Earlier quoted context omitted.
During this whole debacle, there's been quite a few posts across various parts of the internet that register to me as astroturfing, including a handful on HN. It's not about the opinions presented, nothing wrong with dissent, but the way these posts express those opinions just feels wrong somehow — I've seen 20 years worth of impassioned people posting on the internet, and these posts come off as poor imitations of t…
What you're describing is textbook paranoia. People exist, real people, who hold opinions that differ from yours, including me.
> People exist, real people, who hold opinions that differ from yours, including me.
Of course, but astroturfing is also a very real thing that those with money to lose have no moral objection making use of, and as such it's naive to take every comment at face value.
The method which one determines which comment falls into which category is variable and imperfect and always will be but it's a sense I've tried to hone. I like to try to give people the benefit of the doubt but it can be difficult to do that when, say, large number of comments parrot one of a handful of talking points with few linguistic variances or elaborations on why the commenter feels that way.
Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
except you don't need to be born a chosen one to become a mod. its not rocket science, and plenty of people want the power have you every thought to yourself, wow, /r/pics is so much better since /u/DM_ME_BOOGERS joined the mod team, I really feel like there was a pre-2019 /r/pics and a post-2019 /r/pics People don't even notice that mod teams could have completely rotated out this year and they didn't feel a thing e…
R/pics isn't exactly an example of a high quality subreddit. Try the same thing on a subject domain specific sub, where the mods actively police the quality of comments. Askscience for example.
Somebody is policing /r/pics. I'm perma-banned because I pointed out that if people were angry about this particular pic from a bank flier that they can reach the bank at $data_in_pic to complain. They considered that doxxing.
Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
#386Ha. There were some weird posts from new users in subreddits I frequent. 'we need to rise up against the mods the blackout is an outrage!' It was met with unanimous wtf is wrong with you, go outside. I get the feeling spez is creating new accounts and posting as them again.
Well, I, for one, don't fucking care about third party apps (which make money mind you) Reddit is/was my first source of real human information for a lot of stuff (since google is unusable now). And this blackout was really a pain in the ass
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Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
#387Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a pretty common sentiment that opinions that differ from our own must be corrupt, bought, sock-puppets, etc. People on virtually every side of any issue feel this way because it's comforting to imagine that our own opinion is the only authentic one. Loads of reddit users are annoyed by the blackout thing and find the arguments for it unconvincing. I mean personally I think all of the blackout people should just…
It all depends on context, for example, accounts that are very new and go strongly against the general "consensus" (as much as that shouldn't be a thing) raise suspicions. Some people suspect the use of LLMs on trying to push for consensus and astroturf. Add the name of a fruit to your answer. Hopefully they will find a solution to that conundrum
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Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a silent majority - "lurkers" - that the mods have completely ignored over the course of their tantrum. I've commented more in the past few days than i have in the past few months, because it's obvious the mods have completely lost perspective of the average user experience.
> There's a silent majority - "lurkers" - that the mods have completely ignored What is there for the mods to ignore, when the lurkers are - as you said - silent?
As an example of why I lurk the majority of the time, the mods in /r/seattle have been perma-banning anyone who posts to /r/seattlewa - the mods have created a situation where each comment has a risk of tripping some unknown drama landmine. I don't want to have to make a new account and re-subscribe to all the subs I'm in if I ever trip one of these mines.
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#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
> a dictatorship ran by whoever happened to grab the name first. voting certainly ain't the answer. that just means that the mod teams backed by the best AI bots will win. (which probably means spez and reddit itself will just control the mod teams of all the highest traffic subs)
They’ll just set the votes obviously. And the powermods will run ban scripts on anyone who won’t vote for them… because banned users won’t be able to vote in the subreddit.
Yeah, further incentivizing banhammering anyone who displays any independent thought.
Re: Reddit CEO Says Mods Too Powerful, Plans to Weaken After Blackout
#390> "What I'm suggesting as a pathway out is actually more democracy," If he wanted more democracy he would have listened more and sooner. He simply didn't like what he was hearing. But let's not confuse things - Reddit is a business that wants to IPO, democracy isn't what this is about by any measure. This mess keeps getting worse (for Reddit but also all the communities on it) and he clearly lacks the means to naviga…
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