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Buy well, buy once

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Re: Buy well, buy once

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> A Rolex is an incredible engineering marvel and is in fact very high quality and durable. But it's fundamentally worse at being a timepiece than a digital watch synchronized to an NTP time server.

Not after a nuclear war.

Sure it is. Even a relatively poor quality Quartz watch is higher accuracy than a mechanical watch, without any sort of synchronization. Really good ones are accurate to one second per year. No need for NTP at all.

If you're thinking about EMPs or something: well, I'd consider extremely accurate timekeeping to be the least of your concerns if no electronics work anymore...

Re: Buy well, buy once

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> This article, and people posting in this thread are saying that they own 100 or 200 things. > I can't believe this at all. > Either you guys are all just-moved-out kids, single and living in a single room, or we're defining "thing" differently. I feel like the assumption in this is that people who are single and living in a single room are not "people", and shouldn't be posting about how much they own? My utility r…

So in your house do you have things like - antibacterial spray bleach cleaning cloths washing up liquid floor cleaner dusters etc? They might not be yours, but someone uses these? Maybe the cleaner brings them? I don't think that people who are flatsharing or whatever are not people. I just think that it's a super narrow slice of life. You might do it from 25-35 maybe and then get a partner and like, not do that any…

I see what you're saying now: "Is everybody here from the single 15%?!" Meanwhile I've never not been single so being single feels like normal conditions to me and not "that slice of life I barely remember after college".

I have bleach sometimes during flu season and I have hand soap. Probably my cleaning habits are in the bottom 15% too.

Re: Buy well, buy once

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So in your house do you have things like - antibacterial spray bleach cleaning cloths washing up liquid floor cleaner dusters etc? They might not be yours, but someone uses these? Maybe the cleaner brings them? I don't think that people who are flatsharing or whatever are not people. I just think that it's a super narrow slice of life. You might do it from 25-35 maybe and then get a partner and like, not do that any…

I see what you're saying now: "Is everybody here from the single 15%?!" Meanwhile I've never not been single so being single feels like normal conditions to me and not "that slice of life I barely remember after college". I have bleach sometimes during flu season and I have hand soap. Probably my cleaning habits are in the bottom 15% too.

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Re: Buy well, buy once

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As my father said: We are too poor to buy cheap stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory

A nice theory, but ultimately from a novel about something completely different than poverty. It feels today like expensive things are also garbage and that paying more for something does little to ensure its longevity.

Re: Buy well, buy once

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I use a broccoli rubber band as a minimalist iPhone 'case'. [1] It makes the back and bottom of the phone grippy, so it's easier to hold. It does slightly block the corners of the screen, but not much. It doesn't provide much protection in case of a drop, obviously. But the added grippiness makes drops much less likely! I have occasionally bought broccoli that I didn't need just so I could get another rubber band, af…

> It doesn't provide much protection in case of a drop, obviously. But the added grippiness makes drops much less likely! I found popsockets and ring holders a better option in that regard https://image.gsmpunt.nl/blog/image/image_3.png

I don't care that as a man in my 50s that I look like a teenage girl with my phone, but I immediately put a Popsocket on any phone that I own. They are wonderful.

Re: Buy well, buy once

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I think a lot of times this philosophy is just rich people justifying paying a lot for high status items. a pair of Crocs is 50 bucks and that's one of the highest quality pairs of shoes you'll buy for the price. you could buy 10 pairs of Crocs for a $500 pair of Alden's so even if the crocs only lasted a year, it would take a decade to recoup the investment on the Alden's. but the crocs don't have the same status th…

Sure a lot of stuff is high status crap (like the LV weekender bag that was torn apart here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EktumN7N5l8).

But your comparisons don't factor in total cost of ownership and usage, and in fact many quality brands you do pay up for quality and better cost of ownership.

I can wear crocs at home. I would look disrespectful wearing them to a funeral. I can wear Alden anywhere though I might be overdressed for many occassions.

Aldens can be resoled and repaired and can last decades, the cost-per-wear can be very low. And many models of Aldens can be sold for a pretty penny (as an example these https://www.ebay.com/itm/394665864763 still go for nearly $300 even after years of wear). So if you bought Aldens new for $500 and wore for a decade and sold for $300 your cost per wear would be lower than that of the crocs. You would also be doing better for the environment by reusing the clothing and requiring less total material for your feet over a lifetime.

This also applies to a very few select watchmakers (and in fact increase in value). A Rolex or Patek Philippe has essentially beat inflation and would be considered a smart investment that made you money even while you wear it. A G-Shock would not offer similar returns.

Actually a lot of quality clothing can be like this. I thrifted a Tom Ford shirt for $40, wore it for a decade to weddings and funerals, and then sold it for $150. Certain makers are heavily discounted on second hand but retain their value. Borrelli shirts are some of the best on the planet. Would I pay retail? No. But you can buy them, wear them, and sell them second hand and pay virtually 0 to wear them over time.

Furniture is one where I've yet to find cheaper furniture paying off. A lot of particleboard furniture is awful. And it's all over Wayfair. The stuff I've had passed down or that I've bought that's lasted decades are all from North Carolina furniture makers. Not all of that stuff is expensive or high status but it is well made.

Expensive things are not always bad. Oftentimes the price is not justified. But it's not exclusive.

Re: Buy well, buy once

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"obvioudly skewed" how? Its pretty much the perfect example imo

Aldens vs cheapo 20 dollar amazon boots would be a better comparison. You ain't wearing Crocs with a suit my man.

I wear a suit maybe once every five years though.

Like the rest of my life I could wear either Alden or crocs....and I do.

You pick one extreme edge case.

Re: Buy well, buy once

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For the shoes example, there's also value in reducing waste. 10 pairs of rubber Crocs that you throw out every year create much more waste than 1 pair of 500 dollar leather boots that can be repaired and are much more environmentally friendly when they are eventually disposed of. 100% agree about the Corolla though.

Corolla is a terrible example. It’s not a nice car to actually drive compared to almost any other. In that price range: Subaru and Honda will be as reliable and much better cars.

I had a relatively recent Corolla. I put some leather seat covers and floor liners in it and it was nice.

Re: Buy well, buy once

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> It doesn't provide much protection in case of a drop, obviously. But the added grippiness makes drops much less likely! I found popsockets and ring holders a better option in that regard https://image.gsmpunt.nl/blog/image/image_3.png

> popsockets Oh so this is what those weird phone attachments are called. Thanks!

Be advised that they seemed to have changed their design and tape material. They advertise the lower quality tape as "re-adjustable".
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