They mention 12ms, which is 83.3fps. It's a bit too slow for my tastes at $3500 price tag. It might be good for more stationary images, but anything moving will have ghosting/stutter. I'll wait for gen2/3. Still, I'm very happy there is new competition in this field.
First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
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Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
Counterpoint, there's always been a desire to have a virtual environment as first shown in 80's sci-fi films like Hackers, Johnny Mnemonic, etc; immerse yourself in a system, have it become like a natural extension of yourself. There was someone on here some time ago who showed and talked about his setup, he had been doing his job as a software developer reclined in VR for years at that point. Here's the thing though…
The killer app for smartphones is being a phone.
True. The Iphone is an Ipod Touch with a sim card.
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Anyone who flies a lot will be able to use it as advertised now for entertainment and work. And this is WWDC. They’re getting this in front of developers to build the first third-party apps. Years ago, we applied to get Apple TVs for $1 and then came up with an app to launch on it. If you’re early, you have limited competition and can rank in the charts relatively easily (obviously at the risk of fighting over a smal…
>Anyone who flies a lot will be able to use it as advertised now for entertainment and work. It will have the added advantage of being private, so nobody can shoulder surf what you're doing. But ergonomically, writing emails, presentations and filtering spreadsheets - I'd need to use it to see how fun that might be. I guess you can see through the screen, so you know if somebody needs your attention ?
It might sound silly, but I would be fine using this with a keyboard and touchpad. The lousy thing about working from a laptop is the screen being tiny and in the wrong place. It's bad in general, but it's intolerable on a plane. This solves that.
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
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VRChat
Do you have any negative side effects? My brother has sinked many hours into it and it seems to have become a huge issue for him socially in the “real” world.
I feel light headed and forget to fully touch my phone screen outside of VR (thinking just pointing at it will work, as it does in VR).
But only for an hour or two after taking off my headset.
Not sure what you mean about socially? I can't see how interacting with people in a virtual space would have any strange effects on how I interact with people in a physical space. I don't really see a difference between chatting in a group around a virtual table versus a physical table.
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#385I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…
Counterpoint, there's always been a desire to have a virtual environment as first shown in 80's sci-fi films like Hackers, Johnny Mnemonic, etc; immerse yourself in a system, have it become like a natural extension of yourself. There was someone on here some time ago who showed and talked about his setup, he had been doing his job as a software developer reclined in VR for years at that point. Here's the thing though…
> smartphones didn't have "a" killer app per sè I don't think, but they became part of everyone's daily lives in a really short timeframe
The smartphone's killer apps were messages, phone, email and calendar. By the time the iphone came around it was just to eat Blackberry's lunch because it gave us multitouch as the killer interface.
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone who flies a lot will be able to use it as advertised now for entertainment and work. And this is WWDC. They’re getting this in front of developers to build the first third-party apps. Years ago, we applied to get Apple TVs for $1 and then came up with an app to launch on it. If you’re early, you have limited competition and can rank in the charts relatively easily (obviously at the risk of fighting over a smal…
>Anyone who flies a lot will be able to use it as advertised now for entertainment and work. It will have the added advantage of being private, so nobody can shoulder surf what you're doing. But ergonomically, writing emails, presentations and filtering spreadsheets - I'd need to use it to see how fun that might be. I guess you can see through the screen, so you know if somebody needs your attention ?
It looks like you either dial up/down the immersion, so you could always see people at the fringes, or the passthrough would mean you could see someone like a steward appearing to get your attention.
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#387Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
When they seriously started designing this thing 2+ years ago they probably assumed Facebook's metaverse play would be a smashing success and get VR (and apps like its horizon metaverse) into the mainstream. Oops.
I bet it took them much more time to make it. Don’t think metaverse had anything to do with it.
Yeah it's why I said seriously started--I'm sure this idea was floating around and the tech worked on for a decade or more, but only in the last couple years did they decide it was viable to make a consumer product. I'm sure Facebook ramping up and betting big on metaverse helped Apple decide to keep going on shipping it.
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I regularly wear my Quest for 9-10 hours a day. It's plenty comfortable with the right equipment. I forget I'm wearing it after a while.
Quest 2? You re some kind of world champion, most people get tired
Tired of what? I don't understand.
I have a very comfortable third-party head strap (BOBOVR M2) and cooling facial interface so I don't really notice that I'm even wearing a headset after a few minutes.
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#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
I regularly wear my Quest for 9-10 hours a day. It's plenty comfortable with the right equipment. I forget I'm wearing it after a while.
As a friend pointed out, the stated battery life would have o just barely been enough for the keynote O_o
The Quest 2 only gets about 1.5hrs at full FPS. I can extend that to 6 with a battery pack in my pocket, which can be hot swapped for another 6 hours.
I also have a 16 foot USB-C cable hanging from the ceiling with retractable hooks for infinite plugged-in use.