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Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by Beta-7 »

mmh0000 wrote: post #205
mikece wrote: post #105

Tomorrow's story: "Residents of Montana discover VPNs and how to use them!" Between Utah and Montana the awareness and use of VPNs is rising among the non-security-conscious, and this is a good thing.

So, I avoided VPNs for years because they had no practical benefit. I live in Utah, and I would consider myself very technically adept. Previously, I didn't like "VPNs" because now I'm just routing all my traffic through another untrusted 3rd party. It's like choosing between two evils, would I prefer my ISP knows where I go, or some rando that I also have to pay? Worse, the "rando" (usually) requires a VPN app which…

> AND I can pay them in BTC, further obscuring myself.

Which is not really impressive since BTC can be tracked. What is impressive, however, is you can just mail them cash with a piece of paper with your account number on it and they will add that money as credit on your account.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by egorfine »

MadSudaca wrote: post #380
egorfine wrote: post #379

I live in a country where such a ban on certain "enemy" social networks was implemented a few years ago. What will happen is this. Teens will download a shit ton of VPN applications, the vast majority of which are specifically produced and marketed by the enemy to circumvent said ban. Then all users' phone traffic gets routed via the enemy VPN instead of just the social app's requests. Win-win for both sides: - the g…

Let's say establishing policies to reduce the use of TikTok in the population is the right move. What policies would you suggest?

The more I think about it during the last years the less idea I have of what could be a working solution.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by jerrre »

MadSudaca wrote: post #380
egorfine wrote: post #379

I live in a country where such a ban on certain "enemy" social networks was implemented a few years ago. What will happen is this. Teens will download a shit ton of VPN applications, the vast majority of which are specifically produced and marketed by the enemy to circumvent said ban. Then all users' phone traffic gets routed via the enemy VPN instead of just the social app's requests. Win-win for both sides: - the g…

Let's say establishing policies to reduce the use of TikTok in the population is the right move. What policies would you suggest?

Would also depend on the reason you want to reduce it.

Privacy? Data? Attention? Propaganda?

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by eunos »

hax0ron3 wrote: post #277
marianatom wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After narrowly lagging behind China in 2022, Mexico officially became the US’s largest trading partner at the start of 2023, according to new US Census Bureau figures. https://www.gfmag.com/magazine/may-2023/mexico-overtakes-chi... China should fall pretty quickly behind Europe as well this year. China's economy has fallen off the cliff - 80% decrease in foreign orders, 20% official youth unemployment rate, 50% reduc…

>80% decrease in foreign orders, 20% official youth unemployment rate, 50% reduction in home prices, 80% decrease in government land sales I do not find these figures to be credible. They would an indicate a cataclysmic, wartime level sort of economic collapse that I see no evidence of. Since you post this kind of stuff all the time, I can't help but feel that you have an axe to grind. Not that I would blame you for…

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Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by mattrighetti »

can16358p wrote: post #376

I hate TikTok and CCP, but banning an app from use is just wrong. Want to fight TikTok addiction or privacy issues with CCP? Sure, do it. But find other ways: banning users from using it, whereas especially everybody else can access it, is a huge punch on the rights of your own people.

Exactly.

The only solution would be to inform users that their data is funnelled to CCP servers in very obscure ways, that’s the only right thing that you could do.

Enable people to make informed decisions. Want your data stolen? Then go ahead.

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Post by eunos »

radpanda wrote: post #198
viraptor wrote: post #113

Slightly off topic - I'm not sure I've heard the gov stating it plainly in the recent years: "the People's Republic of China is an adversary of the United States" (from the bill). Did I just miss it / glance over, or is this out of character for officially released gov documents?

There are often a lot of weasel words used instead. In US Defense circles China has been described as a "pacing threat" over the past few years: https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/26... I guess that's one way to describe the tense rivalry without completely calling your most important trade partner an "adversary".

Kinda scary that civilian is more hawkish than the military.

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Post by tibbydudeza »

egorfine wrote: post #379

I live in a country where such a ban on certain "enemy" social networks was implemented a few years ago. What will happen is this. Teens will download a shit ton of VPN applications, the vast majority of which are specifically produced and marketed by the enemy to circumvent said ban. Then all users' phone traffic gets routed via the enemy VPN instead of just the social app's requests. Win-win for both sides: - the g…

Or vendors that currently sell cases and repair screens will then offer a service to sideload such apps for teens and install who knows what other stuff on phones for a fee from a customer and malware vendors.

The Prohibition did now work back then and only made the Mafia rich and made them push drugs when it was lifted.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by shawabawa3 »

MadSudaca wrote: post #380
egorfine wrote: post #379

I live in a country where such a ban on certain "enemy" social networks was implemented a few years ago. What will happen is this. Teens will download a shit ton of VPN applications, the vast majority of which are specifically produced and marketed by the enemy to circumvent said ban. Then all users' phone traffic gets routed via the enemy VPN instead of just the social app's requests. Win-win for both sides: - the g…

Let's say establishing policies to reduce the use of TikTok in the population is the right move. What policies would you suggest?

Ban advertising to minors

Huge fines for being caught knowingly serving ads to minors

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