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Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by jorvi »

mikeryan wrote: post #313
Jenk wrote: post #79

Netflix have really dissapointed me. I've been a subscriber since before streaming, and have even been content paying the subscription fee during the "breaks" of not using their service for up to months at a time because I so badly want(ed) them to succeed. I also understood the difficult situation they were facing when the producers of content were makkng ridiculous demands on their distribution, or worse, just pull…

When Reed Hasting left and Ted Sarandos took over he had a bit of power shakeup and handed over the content reins to Bela Bajaria - who was brought in to head up international over Cindy Holland who was in charge of US content. Holland had brought in House of Cards, Orange Is the New Black, Stranger Things, The Crown, Ozark and Narcos. Holland seemed to focus more on developing fewer shows of higher quality content w…

Netflix it’s power is innovation. Think Bandersnatch.

I assume they’re going to be (one of) the first with an AI-assisted or even completely generated show that is completely tuned to your taste.

I expect the same to happen with games, with the wildcard of multiplayer. Music probably earlier than movies / series and games even.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by papito »

So it lost users, not paying customers. I don't see how that's bad for Netflix. Everyone is in a tizzy about not being able to use a product for free. Pay for your shit. Netflix owes you nothing.

I feel strongly about it - and I don't even have a product to sell.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by laserlight »

acuozzo wrote: post #342
ModernMech wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely don't understand this sentiment in 2023. Maybe in 2003 it was reasonable, but if you have the money, just spend it to buy the content you want. I get that there's a lot of "crap" that you don't want to see, but I appreciate some of that, and I'm sure you appreciate some of what I call "crap". I don't see how you go from that situation to justifying not paying for it. There's a price for the content and it…

> Can you offer a full throated defense of why you feel it's okay to pirate media in 2023 -- NOT OP -- In the general case, no, but consider the cases of: 1. "Altered media" e.g. (1) Star Wars, (2) THX 1138. 2. "Remixed media" e.g. (1) Terminator 2 not having its theatrical CDS mix, (2) Earthquake not having its SENSURROUND mix 3. "Omitted media" e.g. (1) Halloween not having its original mono soundtrack, (2) The Exo…

6. Segregation. “Sorry, this content is not available in your region.”

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by laserlight »

themitigating wrote: post #371
acuozzo wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can you offer a full throated defense of why you feel it's okay to pirate media in 2023 -- NOT OP -- In the general case, no, but consider the cases of: 1. "Altered media" e.g. (1) Star Wars, (2) THX 1138. 2. "Remixed media" e.g. (1) Terminator 2 not having its theatrical CDS mix, (2) Earthquake not having its SENSURROUND mix 3. "Omitted media" e.g. (1) Halloween not having its original mono soundtrack, (2) The Exo…

Why would it be ok in these cases?

Why would it be not OK?

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Post by effingwewt »

throwaway290 wrote: post #263
effingwewt wrote: post #238

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Maisel has been canceled. Ended, more specifically since apparently the creators made the decision. Point taken, though. Still, if they only have a 1/10 chance at being good I am not taking the chance. It's like the netflix stamp is a kiss of death to me now. On the rare occasions they get it right they muck it all up after season 1. If I hear good word of mouth about a show I may check it out, but I don't waste my t…

To me "canceled" is only bad when it's cut short like Firefly. Maisel had a good 5 years/seasons worth of run. Otherwise you can say "canceled" about every show that isn't running today... If I could afford it in terms of money and time I would probably subscribe to all of them, I mean why not? To go see one movie costs about as much as a month of subscription to one streaming service. So subscribing to Netflix, Prim…

I appended it with it being more correct to say 'ended'.

Aside from that it didnt start with 5 in mind, it just kept going till the creators decided to nix it.

That's not the same as having a 5 season vision and completing the story you wanted to tell.

And for sure to each their own, if you enjoy the services by all means continue being a patron.

I'm over all of them personally, even disney+ is going to start charging to watch new movies on it.

If there was one place to watch everything I'd be interested.

But I'm tired of lack of content worth watching, constant fluctuations in what's available, and horrible UX designs for no discernable reason.

All that coupled with the constant preaching has me watching more older movies, and occasionally something new worth watching like Super Mario.

So the money I used to spend on subs I now use on watching the occasional movie in the theater, and more storage for my ever growing media collection I know will always be there.

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Post by passion__desire »

themitigating wrote: post #369
passion__desire wrote: post #362

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Why is Netflix not following short high quality 1-3 min videos model which is popular with young crowd? They already have Fast laughs tab which mimics that. Youtube / Creative studios could pitch 1-3 min video ideas which Netflix could greenlight and provide just bare minimum capital to produce. If the final film is good, Netflix could buy the film and release on their platform. Current Trends which are in favour of…

Wasn't this what Quibi tried?

Not sure why Quibi failed. Maybe trying to get distribution/tech and content right at the same time didn't work for them. Netflix doesn't have distribution problem, just content and it should try to iterate on what works.

Personally, there are so many short stories (e.g. by Greg Egan, Borges, others[0]) which I would like it to reach mass audience. Rights are tricky issue though.

https://qntm.org/responsibilit [0]

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Post by gcatalfamo »

lvl102 wrote: post #361
gcatalfamo wrote: post #24

From the comments in this thread, many are not understanding that password borrowers are typically contributing to the account owner's monthly subscription, and many account owners, when faced to the full price of the subscription will eventually unsubscribe as well. 5€ month for what Netflix has to offer is one thing, 18€/month, for many, becomes an instant no-deal.

It’s really not that expensive. You make it sound like Netflix is getting away with murder. If you use it, pay for it. Grow up.

I didn't attack Netflix at all. You seem upset that the market dynamics seem to behave in a way you don't like/support. Am I the one that has to grow up?

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Post by Jenk »

neals wrote: post #359
Jenk wrote: post #79

Netflix have really dissapointed me. I've been a subscriber since before streaming, and have even been content paying the subscription fee during the "breaks" of not using their service for up to months at a time because I so badly want(ed) them to succeed. I also understood the difficult situation they were facing when the producers of content were makkng ridiculous demands on their distribution, or worse, just pull…

Disappointment can only come from your own expectations. Good doesn't last. I like to have a mindset of using these kind of things while they work for me, until they don't, then leave and not look back. Don't get attached to commercial endeavours.

> Disappointment can only come from your own expectations.

Reductionist victim blaming and, frankly, nonsense. Pessimism is not healthy.

I supported their business (by paying) because I liked their operating model, and their campaign (for lack of a better word) to keep adverts out of the platform and to support "better" content.

I am dissappointed that model has, apparently, failed and they are pivoting away into yet another low brow, low IQ, garbage distributor - even if it is an inevitability.

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Post by Alupis »

babypuncher wrote: post #374
neals wrote: post #359

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Disappointment can only come from your own expectations. Good doesn't last. I like to have a mindset of using these kind of things while they work for me, until they don't, then leave and not look back. Don't get attached to commercial endeavours.

I think some people's expectations of Netflix were downright unrealistic. When they started streaming, the platform was paying pennies to license shows that were already in syndication. Programs that had already made their money in first runs on network TV and cable. As streaming became the de facto distribution method for new content, of course the cost of licensing that content ewas going to go up. Streaming licens…

None of which says "Make a million garbage shows and movies that nobody asked for and few actually enjoy - then raise monthly rates to bankroll these pet projects".

Here's an idea - quality over quantity. Make fewer, but better shows and movies.

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