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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by fredgrott »

joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

when you can factually compare it to Bakersfield(higher crime rate and less inequality) then maybe your conclusion changes to something of more value.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by jeffbee »

joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

> neutered police force

The police are on strike and that's all there is to it. They haven't been "neutered". SF has an average number of sworn personnel for cities of its size, 23 per 10k residents.

No city has figured out how to attack the problem of police productivity, except arguably Camden NJ.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by robertwt7 »

This is crazy, Bob is such an excellent engineer that has contributed so much to the engineering world. I have no words for this.

Sf needs to get their shits together, i still can’t believe that the majority of the high income earners stayed home because they’re afraid of the people on the street. I often asked my mates when I visited SF, how come a city so rich has such a basic security issue where people don’t feel safe walking around their own city??

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by yabones »

short_sells_poo wrote: post #372
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

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I love the line of thinking that police can "prevent" or "stop" crime as anything other than a deterrent. One of the "lies to children" we repeat over and over. Policing is entirely reactive, responding and arriving long after the crime has taken place. The solution is never adding beat cops, it's fixing the underlying issues in society.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by cdolan »

bombcar wrote: post #367
civilized wrote: post #312

I accompanied my wife to a conference in SF a few years ago. While walking along Market Street, returning to our hotel from picking up food for the kids, one of those dishevelled guys with big coats ran at me full tilt. I was forced to run across the middle of the street into traffic to get away from him. He pursued me, pulling out a gun and pointing it at me midway across the street. After I got across the street he…

I’ve often wondered if the above is part of the reason we have so many tech delivery companies - hire someone else to take the risk for that burger for you.

Wow. Had not thought of that.

I think you may be correct! Feels right out of black mirror/etc

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by BobbyJo »

short_sells_poo wrote: post #372
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

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So SF is dangerous because it's so rich? Or because the US is poor? I don't really follow the logic here.

The wealth disparity in SF is huge and definitely part of the issue, but it's mostly created by very local problems, like allowing sidewalks to be campgrounds while housing goes insane.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by HL33tibCe7 »

fluidcruft wrote: post #379
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

Have deaths as a result of police violence decreased?

Deaths from “police violence” are extremely uncommon - when they do happen, it is plastered all over the newspapers for months.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by viridian »

astrange wrote: post #154
ronanyeah wrote: post #126

Americans clearly have very low expectations for their standard of living. As demonstrated by the amount of insane 'actually the murder rate isn't that bad' comments in this thread.

Every city in America is so much incredibly safer than it was in 1990 that nobody old enough to remember that is going to be bothered by much of anything. (That is, if you think now's bad, you should've seen it then.)

Nationwide crime is up 50% in the past 3 years, and at about 70% of the 1991 all time high. It's safer than our absolute peak for sure, but this historical reversal should be very concerning.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by cdolan »

fluidcruft wrote: post #379
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

Have deaths as a result of police violence decreased?

Is the logical conclusion to this line of thought that any fewer deaths from police violence justifies a metropolitan area falling into socio-economic collapse?
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