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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Not quite as damaging, but I was accused of harassment from some blue-haired weirdo on a video call with nearly a hundred people at work. Like you, this was a person I had zero interaction with prior to the call. I considered getting a lawyer involved because I feared this could blow up, but was talked out of it by my boss, who asked me to apologize and "let's leave it at that".

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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So women are now excluded from education like the olden days? Wtf?

Indeed .. why exactly would you think that? Is this your thing is it, incorrectly framing what others write and then appending. Wtf?

You claim that STEM discriminates women today because of something that happened in 1890.

I would like to see some evidence of that related to today, not something from 1890. And not your empty statement of "what was once a pattern still persists to a lesser degree".

Maybe here is something you should read, which refers to the state as it is today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox#:~:tex....

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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The real issue is that people stopped caring about whatever the justice system is going to decide. There's a new religion of social justice, and this religion is harsher than even the old religions. The old religions you were at least judged by an omnipotent being who could see the whole picture. This new woke religion have you judged by a dumb mob. Everyone's playing the judge and everyone's responsible to punishing…

Everything in your comment is pretty reasonable until this: >And this is a direct result of lack of religion You claim this like it's proven to be true. It's not. The reason for this inherent ask for social justice in my opinion has nothing to do with religion. Instead, I feel like people got disappointed in existing justice system, looking at nasty people going through life unfazed, even though it is painfully obvio…

So the justice system built by many intelligent professionals failed, but the dumb mob justice will succeed?

It is the lack of religion, because religion is exactly what would fill this gap in the minds of people from seeing injustice. Maybe the earthly judges failed, but I don't need to be cruel and punishing because the criminal will get what's coming for him in the next life.

It doesn't even matter if this argument is true or false, and if there is another life and judgement in it. That line of thinking clearly keeps people more civilized. Here in the present, in an objectively observable way that even complete atheists could compare.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

False allegations should carry the same penalty as the crime being alleged.

No they shouldn't, because such laws will just open the door to even more abuse. Imagine you are raped by someone. You go to the police to report the crime, but unfortunately, they deny, and you can't provide any real evidence. They can now countersue because you've made a "false allegation" which ruined their life.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Its a synthetic religion, alright, but it wouldnt have spread that much, if people were happy with the old religions. At the core is the same mechanism working in other religions. Get the sexual different to provide matrimonial contract security (aka a proto law version), which now is replaced with a provide social security. I suspect, this is one of the reasons of record numbers of men dropping out of working societ…

Old religions at least have forgiveness. You can confess your sins and repent. This new religion doesn't have anything like that.

Actually really good point. In times of old if you sinned, all you had to do to get your sins washed away was to go to confess, maybe make some donation. Now instead of that when nasty shit gets leaked, you can make a public apology, maybe make a charitable donation to some noble cause. But then people see you formulaic ass post, donation to a friend's charity and not a hint of change in behavior, and they tell you to fuck off with that fake shit. But if you actually understand your mistake, make a genuine apology, and correct your behaviour, people will forgive you. There are many examples of that.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Didn't want to post from my main account to avoid any references and trails. It goes beyond just sexual harassment at work. I was accused by my ex wife. Even before any trials or anything: I lost my job, banks, housing and pretty much anything that requires a background check. I fought this for a year, and everything was dropped, because her friend came as witnesses and explained how she and my ex wife planned on set…

The real issue is that people stopped caring about whatever the justice system is going to decide. There's a new religion of social justice, and this religion is harsher than even the old religions. The old religions you were at least judged by an omnipotent being who could see the whole picture. This new woke religion have you judged by a dumb mob. Everyone's playing the judge and everyone's responsible to punishing…

> And this is a direct result of lack of religion. The absence of religion isn't lack of oppression, it's oppression by a dumb blind mob. Religion isn't the truly primitive behavior, the truly primitive behavior is this dumb mob social justice that's spreading now.

Nah, they're both truly primitive. China doesn't have this "dumb mob social justice" phenomenon and is largely irreligious. Irrationality isn't inevitable.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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>More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. My friend who still lives in the Valley says this kind of sentiment is incredibly common there nowadays, e.g. advertising an open position and having discussions internally that a man won't be hired for the role. It's pretty surprising to me, because statistics show that most major careers have a gender imbalance in one di…

Software engineering is a high prestige job. Rightly or wrongly, most female dominated jobs are not.

Eh in my experience it's a highly paid job but there's 0 prestige in it.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Everything in your comment is pretty reasonable until this: >And this is a direct result of lack of religion You claim this like it's proven to be true. It's not. The reason for this inherent ask for social justice in my opinion has nothing to do with religion. Instead, I feel like people got disappointed in existing justice system, looking at nasty people going through life unfazed, even though it is painfully obvio…

So the justice system built by many intelligent professionals failed, but the dumb mob justice will succeed? It is the lack of religion, because religion is exactly what would fill this gap in the minds of people from seeing injustice. Maybe the earthly judges failed, but I don't need to be cruel and punishing because the criminal will get what's coming for him in the next life. It doesn't even matter if this argumen…

Telling people they need to hope criminals will get judged after they die is not going to work anymore.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Indeed .. why exactly would you think that? Is this your thing is it, incorrectly framing what others write and then appending. Wtf?

You claim that STEM discriminates women today because of something that happened in 1890. I would like to see some evidence of that related to today, not something from 1890. And not your empty statement of "what was once a pattern still persists to a lesser degree". Maybe here is something you should read, which refers to the state as it is today : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox#:~:tex... .

> You claim that STEM discriminates women today because of something that happened in 1890.

No.

You claim that I made that claim.

I made no assertation of causal linkage, I merely pointed out a historic fact about the roots of modern education in the UK and US.

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