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Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by zokier »

return_to_monke wrote: post #378
amatecha wrote: post #129

If you haven't seen it, this Google Map of all found debris is quite interesting: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1Kghrk3iwRInii5qBTG...

what I don't understand is: if the plane could make contact with the satellite, why aren't there automated systems in place to send location info through that channel? can someone explain?

From tfa

> In the interest of knowing where every plane is at all times, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) began requiring that all airliners manufactured after the 1st of January 2021 include autonomous tracking devices that broadcast their location once per minute.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

reacweb wrote: post #363
interestica wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Investigations have some weird bits. I've always wondered if there's a certain title for the person who prepares the chickens for the 'chicken gun' in airplane testing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_gun

The person who bought the chickens told me that battery chickens were not suitable because the bones were too soft. Farm chickens were needed. The farmer never knew what the chickens were for.

Damn, we throw chickens in engines that are healthier than the ones most people eat.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by fendy3002 »

neilv wrote: post #198

> But Sherlock Holmes was right: once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. This matter isn't entertainment fiction, and nobody involved is Sherlock Holmes. Hundreds of people died. Amateurs publicly casting blame on one of the presumed dead seems unfair to the individual accused, and insensitive to the families. Especially when it depends on bits like this:…

> This matter isn't entertainment fiction, and nobody involved is Sherlock Holmes.

People love to misuse this quotes. Even if Holmes said this, usually it is proven, and with evidences.

It only works if every possibilities are discovered or accounted for. It's wrong to simply disprove all of other possibilities that only some people can account for.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by cstross »

smusamashah wrote: post #384

Has anything been done in the airline system so that we never loos a flight again like this ever?

If you had read to the end you would have found your answer(s). Work is in progress: but as airliners are designed for a working life of at least 30 years it will take a while yet before the lessons of MH370 are universally adopted.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by IgorPartola »

joecool1029 wrote: post #332
IgorPartola wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not that weird. Lithium (ion) batteries can catch on fire if submerged in water. Can juice do it is a legitimate question.

No, not ion. Lithium *metal* batteries can catch fire when submerged in water. Lithium ion batteries have very little lithium and lots of water is usually the best method to extinguish larger fires. More on safety including information on aircraft fire suppression systems on the more common lithium ion cells: https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-304a-safety-concern...

Ah that’s the one. Thanks for the correction.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by mehphp »

smusamashah wrote: post #384

Has anything been done in the airline system so that we never loos a flight again like this ever?

Not to sound harsh, but given how rare something like this, I doubt it's urgent enough of a problem for the funds/effort it would require.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by a2tech »

stephen_g wrote: post #319

Yes, I think the pilot has to have deliberately done it. The turns after the transponder went off are too intentional, and nothing like the flight plan the plane was meant to be flying. I saw a simulation that looked fairly convincing, that showed if the plane was ditched in a controlled glide from where the last ping was received, assuming that's were it ran out of fuel, then the plane would have glided out of the a…

I hope for the passengers sake that he flew that plane straight into the ocean instead of gently laying it down. It would turn a basic instant death into a nightmare slow action drowning scenario where if you didn't die immediately taking many days to die from exposure and thirst.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by mannykannot »

digitalsankhara wrote: post #355
mannykannot wrote: post #117

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I took a look at this a few months ago, and when I left off, I was unsure exactly how they conducted the validation of the technique. In particular, there was a test on June 3 2021 where they attempted to reconstruct the path of a flight from Samoa to Australia[1]. Certain phrases in the report leave me wondering whether the test simply amounted to looking for anomalies in the WSPRnet data in close spatiotemoral prox…

Thank you for the link and I need to spend some time to read the details. It was stated in the paper I read that tracking one of the proving flights failed but other flights had data which correlated to part of an aircraft's flight path. I agree with your analysis that some pre-knowledge of the track is apparent here and therefore more fully blinded independent experiments would be needed to add credibility. Given th…

Several hours ago, someone made two posts in this thread, pointing out the lack of statistical analysis (aside from an unsupported claim of statistical significance) in a similar test involving an airplane over the Baltic Sea. I'm not seeing those posts now, and I don't know what to make of that (did their author find a reasonable analysis?)

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Post by [deleted] »

yellowapple wrote: post #309
listenallyall wrote: post #278

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> I created an OpenAI account solely so I could ask was it worth it? no. Feel free to ask OpenAi whatever happens to amuse you. Please don't waste the rest of our time or attention or bandwidth on it. Nobody cares.

Thank you for your contribution to this discussion.

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