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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #19

"Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." This is not "free speech absolutism" in the slightest. It's not even business-savvy. Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype.

With every new thread about Twitter I lose more respect for this community. It is comment after comment of sneer, puerile insults, and caricaturally one-sided remarks.

I agree that these threads have been appallingly bad* but the solution isn't to post more bad comments, it's to find things that do gratify your curiosity and comment on those.

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33992824, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34020263

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And not only speculation, he tweeted this in October 2022: ”Buying Twitter is an accelerant to creating X, the everything app”

Forgive me for being stupid, but why would any consumer want an "everything app"? It's not exactly a compelling need I've ever heard anyone express. Yes, multiple things can be combined, but if it works, probably just coincidence.

> why would any consumer want an "everything app"?

1. Everyone else has it

2. You can pay with it anywhere (pay in shops, pay people, pay online)

The Apple and Android app stores are everything apps.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #227
post #188

> Prohibited platforms: > Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Post and Nostr > 3rd-party social media link aggregators such as linktr.ee, lnk.bio Missing from this list are things that are not direct competitors, but where creators have monetized brands that they're motivated to promote on Twitter, including: YouTube, OnlyFans. I suspect that promoting blog articles on Medium and Substack is still OK…

I wonder how hard Twitter will try to find all the Mastodon servers (other than Mastodon.social) in people's bios?

I don't know the fediverse protocol but wouldn't it be really easy to check if a link is part of it?

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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My understanding: When the Titanic sank, almost all the poor people died because it was standard policy to lock the gates at all times and prevent them from coming up on deck from their cheap accommodations. No one thought to unlock them as the ship began to sink.

Locking the gates after people begin trying to flee like rats from a sinking ship seems like rather desperate behavior and won't stop the ship from sinking. It reads like someone hemorrhaging money who has no clue how to entice people to want to be there, how to foster good conversation etc and is defaulting to habits that grow out of having power over people of a sort he does not have over Twitter membership.

I thought about passive-aggressively posting a movie clip of the Titanic sinking and the locked gates on Twitter but that's the behavior of someone afraid to speak their mind. I have fewer than 400 followers and no meaningful engagement that I'm aware of. Perhaps I won't know what I've got til it's gone, but Elon Musk is welcome to ban me if this comment is a bridge too far for the man.

Policy on HN is "Move slow and preserve things." People swear this site never changes, though it does. It just does so unobtrusively.

A lot of social stuff is hard to learn, even harder to teach, especially to someone doing it all wrong who wants to believe someone else's behavior is The Problem, the whole problem and nothing but the problem.

Social things don't work that way.

It takes two people actively cooperating to tango. It only takes one fool determined to step on everyone's feet to make it impossible to dance at all.

Not sure what my next step is, but it seems it's time to plan for a future without Twitter.

This is the behavior of someone who has no clue how social media actually works.

Edit: I will add that "free speech proponent" as a platform policy is always a shit show and only someone incredibly naive, to put it charitably, would think that's a great thing to promote as their official position/policy.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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It is sickening seeing how far Twitter has fallen. Be sure to get an archive of your Twitter data while you still can. https://twitter.com/settings/download_your_data Also if you are on Mastodon the tools to follow your Twitter followers are probably still working but may not very much longer. My favorite of the bunch is https://www.movetodon.org/

> Be sure to get an archive of your Twitter data while you still can

It worked for me in the past (a few months ago). Today, however, I can't even receive an SMS to make a backup due to having a Ukrainian phone number.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

This is always how it goes. Free speech absolutists that run web communities basically always stop short the moment they feel like they are under threat (regardless of any actual threat). Even the most infamous of free speech platforms will just ban users who hurt the admins feelings. Back when Gab switched over to using a hostile fork of Mastodon for a backend[0], Torba banned the users of FreeSpeechExtremist (a Ple…

> Even the most infamous of free speech platforms will just ban users who hurt the admins feelings.

Out of curiosity: did 4chan ever try to ban anyone for talking about moot?

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #313

(from another thread) Any attorneys want to weigh in on whether - or when - this becomes an anti-competitive/anti-trust concern, either in the US (FTC) or the EU? Related reading: * Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) Article 102, on abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position in a market: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures... . Any EU resident can file a co…

aren't they a private company anyway? To claim that they have a dominant position is very ovestated. Twitter is no bigger than reddit.

Twitter has - or rather, had - outside influence compared to Reddit due to the number of professionals in the media using it.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With every new thread about Twitter I lose more respect for this community. It is comment after comment of sneer, puerile insults, and caricaturally one-sided remarks.

I don't think you're helping? Do you have anything to say that isn't also an insult?

I don't think you can tell someone they're acting childish without being insulting, by definition, that doesn't mean it serves no purpose. One would hope that push back would lead to self-reflection. What else do you want me to say? Compare the threads about twitter to any other and the difference should be self-evident.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #136
post #19

"Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." This is not "free speech absolutism" in the slightest. It's not even business-savvy. Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype.

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If you troll everyone, sack loads of people, release internal private emails in a bizarre push to manufacture a right wing conspiracy theory that isn’t couched in reality, you own Twitter and you act like a jerk stopping free linking on it, I’m not sure there’s much left to say really. Musk has gone from being someone who I thought was fairly decent and pushing humanity forward to someone who is a thin skinned conspiracy theorist trying to f-the-libs. I’m starting to think that for all the progress Tesla and SpaceX have made maybe we shouldn’t have billionaires at all, it’s too much power for individuals.
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