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India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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I am really baffled by this claim, since I've been observing the Global Hunger Index for a while, where India has consistently fared worse than even DPRK (North Korea), and is almost the same level as Afghanistan, a country that has been at war for 20 years. https://www.globalhungerindex.org/ I am not sure if these 2 reports are contradictory, or whether they are in agreement with each other (since the GHI score for…

The reason for this is (assuming no malice from the index creators) Indians always have had low protein diet (I have evidence from all state cuisines which are very carb heavy for field work). Relatively lower meat consumption also skews it. However, eggs consumption has increased a lot in recent decades which should help.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Some cities have “Big Bazaar” which is similar to a Walmart (smaller though, the Indian market doesn’t have the variety of brands and products other countries do). There certainly are a lot of other similar stores. A more American thing that isn't readily available is like a Costco, bulk shopping would be pretty tough there, and people are fine to go out on a more regular basis to pick up fresh milk/veggies. No Ameri…

Amazon India now offers weekly consolidation for many items with the occasional cashback incentive.

It’s been a while since I have stayed and didn’t realize Amazon offered this… great for them!

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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I really love India, have been visiting for tech business for over 20 years. I've found it to be one of the toughest countries to do business. I'd be more physically and mentally drained at the end of each day. And I'd fly out with a huge to do list. Yet there has been many heartening observations along the way.

I saw a poor woman go up to the window of the frequent flyer lounge kitchen, she placed with her hands out, and the staff returned and gave her a bundle of eggs. She was so grateful.

While stuck in a jam traveling between meetings, slums lined the side of the road, three kids under 5, no clothes, covered in filth, hitting a stone around with a stick with huge smiles... happiness.

And last night on the way home in Mumbai I see a father and son on a dark street intersection with almost nobody around. The father laid out a tarp and the under 5 year old son was hopping and dancing around taking shoes out of the sack and placing them neatly in pairs.

And then the little jobs to help people. The chaiwala and the lift attendant.

And well... the food! Thank you India.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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So they lifted almost twice my home country's population out of poverty in 15 years? That's impressive. Also, how did India got to have so many people?

Well Europe would have same amount of population if they havent occupied others lands.

Europeans talking about high population, human rights and global warming is a joke

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Why does globalisation automatically deserve credit for progress in two major economies with the most government planning? Have evaluated alternative hypotheses? Maybe Education or Scientific Literacy or something else deserves this credit.

Because they essentially exported their poverty to the first world.

Poverty in the first world isn’t real poverty.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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One of the best things about living in India is watching families move from lower or lower-middle class to middle-class status. Usually, all it takes is someone from the family landing a white-collar job. While the tech bodyshops (TCS, Infosys, etc.) might have a poor reputation in the US, these companies have been absolutely critical in helping move tens of millions into middle-class respectability.

> While the tech bodyshops (TCS, Infosys, etc.) might have a poor reputation in the US, these companies have been absolutely critical in helping move tens of millions into middle-class respectability.

couldn't agree more. In my previous comments, I've criticized bodyshops for their business model but this is so true. While I never worked for any of the WITCH company but I worked with few product based and service based companies, In my case, we do not had our own house, in my 10 years of Software Engineer career, I was able to bought house and also paid my whole housing loan. Own a second hand car. I could also buy a new car but I decided to go ahead with used car instead. For those who don't know, car is necessity in US but in India it is considered a semi-luxury.

Agreed, I would say, I am relatively good at what I do so it also translated in to comparatively higher salary (and still way less than what I could have made if I would have moved to Bengaluru - "Silicon Valley of India")

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Hmm. If you are saying we are all interconnected, relying on the diverse resources, products, and gifts from around this small planet to do the things we want to do, e.g. care for our sick, advance the common good, protect the vulnerable, provide stable sources of food _so that_ our global population can grow in a safe, equitable, sustainable manner toward lives full of fulfillment and wonder, away from subsistence l…

The US has injected untold billions into the Indian market through off shoring phone support. India has made hundreds of millions of dollar scamming America's most vulnerable population.

How much did USA's MLMs, unhealthy food companies and ponzi schems steal from the world?

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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One of the best things about living in India is watching families move from lower or lower-middle class to middle-class status. Usually, all it takes is someone from the family landing a white-collar job. While the tech bodyshops (TCS, Infosys, etc.) might have a poor reputation in the US, these companies have been absolutely critical in helping move tens of millions into middle-class respectability.

This comment has spawned one of the most positive threads I’ve seen here in a long time.

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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While my country has made tremendous progress, I wonder how precise these numbers are. India's poverty line doesn't gets redrawn every year to account for the inflation and increased cost of living. The current definition of the poverty line is daily earnings 27 rs for rural areas and 33 for urban, which is a ludicrously low number. Even beggars earn more than that. Of course we will have very low poverty if we use s…

The report does not use any numbers your provided. They use Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI). From the report: The global Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI) is a key international resource that measures acute multidimensional poverty across more than 100 developing countries. First launched in 2010 by the oxford Poverty and Human development Initiative at the university of oxford and the Human development repor…

Thank you for correcting me there.
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