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Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by dfgsdfgwef »

soulofmischief wrote: post #367
mikae1 wrote: post #341

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Did you try https://logseq.com/ ? I've had not reason to pick freemium Obsidian over open source Logseq.

I loved Obsidian to death, but felt a bit of friction. As nice as it was, I wasn't getting sucked in and resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking. Enter Logseq, and after a 20 minute learning curve, ideas just fly off of my fingertips. I reach for it daily. Can't recommend Logseq enough.

Same experience here. I was die hard fan of obsidian till I used Logseq. Obsidian doesn't have proper outlining as they have another commercial app called Dynalist. They probably don't want competition between their own products. Lack of folders in logseq is a feature. It force the user to follow zettelcasten style which results in serendipitous encounters with older notes.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by theGnuMe »

soulofmischief wrote: post #367
mikae1 wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try https://logseq.com/ ? I've had not reason to pick freemium Obsidian over open source Logseq.

I loved Obsidian to death, but felt a bit of friction. As nice as it was, I wasn't getting sucked in and resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking. Enter Logseq, and after a 20 minute learning curve, ideas just fly off of my fingertips. I reach for it daily. Can't recommend Logseq enough.

>resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking.

what? why... also emacs is really good for reproducible terminal logging of experiments/commands/output.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by TheLocehiliosan »

shrvtv wrote: post #379

The app experience is totally ruined now. It's insanity for me to see 1Password 7 to 8 transition level of nonsense again. Block-quotes are no longer quotes, just text with a strip of light on the left with no option to make it more obvious. File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it. Performance sucks so much, and that is on an eight-core x64 mobile CPU running Windows 10 Pro. Everyt…

> File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it.

Have you tried adjusting the option: Appearance › Show inline title ?

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by kepano »

shrvtv wrote: post #379

The app experience is totally ruined now. It's insanity for me to see 1Password 7 to 8 transition level of nonsense again. Block-quotes are no longer quotes, just text with a strip of light on the left with no option to make it more obvious. File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it. Performance sucks so much, and that is on an eight-core x64 mobile CPU running Windows 10 Pro. Everyt…

You can turn off the inline title under Settings > Appearance

It will likely take a few weeks for plugins/themes to update to the new theme system, so I would encourage a bit of patience!

See theme migration guide: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/0-16-0-theme-migration-guide/425...

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by shrvtv »

TheLocehiliosan wrote: post #383
shrvtv wrote: post #379

The app experience is totally ruined now. It's insanity for me to see 1Password 7 to 8 transition level of nonsense again. Block-quotes are no longer quotes, just text with a strip of light on the left with no option to make it more obvious. File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it. Performance sucks so much, and that is on an eight-core x64 mobile CPU running Windows 10 Pro. Everyt…

> File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it. Have you tried adjusting the option: Appearance › Show inline title ?

That actually worked out for me, thanks. Looks like some settings like font size, UI scaling and showing inline title have been reset.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by duderific »

The5thElephant wrote: post #378
wbharding wrote: post #67

Between Obsidian, Roam, Amplenote, and Reflect it has certainly been a golden age for note taking over the last few years. It's hard to remember that it was only 5 years ago that second generation note apps like Evernote, Notion and Bear were the only viable options unless you wanted a 1st gen app like OneNote or Workflowy. What might be most interesting about the new set of fast moving note apps is that all seem to…

My issue is that it feels like none of these tools do anything significantly new, and are all so obsessed with wonky features like node-graph views and backlinks that are only useful to a niche audience of obsessive note-takers who in many cases seem to care more about playing with their notes than actually using or sharing them. That's why I'm working on creating https://visible.page because I want a tool that isn't…

It sounds like you're going for a completely different type of user than those who like Obsidian. That said, I've signed up for your Beta rollout, as what you're building sounds appealing for my use case, that of a kind of family planner.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by andthat »

shrvtv wrote: post #379

The app experience is totally ruined now. It's insanity for me to see 1Password 7 to 8 transition level of nonsense again. Block-quotes are no longer quotes, just text with a strip of light on the left with no option to make it more obvious. File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it. Performance sucks so much, and that is on an eight-core x64 mobile CPU running Windows 10 Pro. Everyt…

Been using Obsidian for the last year or so, following LYT etc. Life changing software. So, basically everything feels exactly the same to me. I don't understand what this comment is about. Is something light years ahead just because there is a different link colour? For some reason this comment is at the top? HN pessimism has gone too far. Sorry.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by ncallaway »

just_boost_it wrote: post #362
ncallaway wrote: post #291

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> how useful your notes are While I think it's an interesting metric, it wouldn't capture the utility of my notes for me (emphasis on "for me", since everyone's probably different when it comes to notes). Often, the act of writing the note helps better commit what I'm writing to memory. At a super rough estimate I'd say that 80% of the utility of note-taking is the act of producing the note itself, and only 20% of th…

That's definitely an exponential distribution. I'm a data scientist and I keep going back to a few key notes over and over and adding little bits. I tried to track things like ideas, tasks, and just journaling, but it just didn't fit right. It's unbeatable for my work related stuff though, and the key things for me were mathjax support and being able to paste screenshots directly onto the page. Fantastic product.

Oh, I 100% agree that there would be some kind of exponential falloff in which notes I go back to.

I just, again, for me personally, gain a lot of value from writing the notes even that I never go back to revisit.

So for me personally, the metric is interesting, like I said, but doesn't capture "how useful" a note is, because I have most of my utility outside of that use case.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by The5thElephant »

duderific wrote: post #387
The5thElephant wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My issue is that it feels like none of these tools do anything significantly new, and are all so obsessed with wonky features like node-graph views and backlinks that are only useful to a niche audience of obsessive note-takers who in many cases seem to care more about playing with their notes than actually using or sharing them. That's why I'm working on creating https://visible.page because I want a tool that isn't…

It sounds like you're going for a completely different type of user than those who like Obsidian. That said, I've signed up for your Beta rollout, as what you're building sounds appealing for my use case, that of a kind of family planner.

Definitely targeting a different core user, although I think the simplicity and power that we will provide out-of-the-box may eventually sway some users caught in Obsidian/Roam land to try the Visible way.

Thank you for signing up for the beta, we will start rolling out invites soon! "Family planner" is exactly the kind of early user we want. Daily life involves so much information that goes beyond text, and we feel there should be a tool that can handle any information you throw at it in an elegant way without tediously configuring and managing it.

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